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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:24 am
by Ausuka
I mean I would highly encourage eating dinner! But like, you don't have to make a whole entire essay on Datisi?? Just like, 1-3 paragraphs explaining your reasoning and maybe a couple of examples of posts which show your point?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:25 am
by Gamma Emerald
marci, if you're correct on datisi, and you opt not to write anything about it, and we ignore your read in MeLo, how would that make you feel?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:32 am
by marcistar
but whenever i actually give a read its like

idk how to word it in a lesser way so i just have to explain IT ALL

and usually ppl end up making me feel dumb anyways so then usually i end up quieting down on reads after i feel dumb abt it

and what i cucrrently have makes it look like yall will make me feel dumb about it

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:33 am
by marcistar
In post 2501, Gamma Emerald wrote:marci, if you're correct on datisi, and you opt not to write anything about it, and we ignore your read in MeLo, how would that make you feel?
what do u want me to feel?

even when i do give reads ppl ignore it anyways LOL i dont want heavy sway in the game like that

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:35 am
by Ausuka
In post 2502, marcistar wrote:but whenever i actually give a read its like

idk how to word it in a lesser way so i just have to explain IT ALL

and usually ppl end up making me feel dumb anyways so then usually i end up quieting down on reads after i feel dumb abt it

and what i cucrrently have makes it look like yall will make me feel dumb about it
Is there a way we could question your thought process without making you feel dumb?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:37 am
by Ausuka
Idk I don't want to be mean or rude but I don't feel like I can just give you a free pass here.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:40 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2503, marcistar wrote:
In post 2501, Gamma Emerald wrote:marci, if you're correct on datisi, and you opt not to write anything about it, and we ignore your read in MeLo, how would that make you feel?
what do u want me to feel?

even when i do give reads ppl ignore it anyways LOL i dont want heavy sway in the game like that
I want you to feel like you're helping us solve
your POV is extremely murky to the point that if you flip town your takes give us nothing to work with

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:55 am
by marcistar
wdym

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:57 am
by Gamma Emerald
I can't really tell if I would agree w your Datisi read if you don't provide reasons
beyond that you have like next to no takes aside from datisi!scum that I can remember

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:59 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
Marci next time somebody makes you feel dumb lemme know we'll fight em together

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:03 pm
by marcistar
nono its fine its jusy my fault cuz im not happy

anyways my cat is forcing me to cuddle so lets see if i can quote the vibes

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:05 pm
by marcistar
In post 2040, Datisi wrote:yeah uh, a part of the reason why i was playing sorta scummily the whole game was because i was counting on the fact i can confirm myself
first off this is kinda stinky

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:09 pm
by scamper
In post 2502, marcistar wrote:but whenever i actually give a read its like

idk how to word it in a lesser way so i just have to explain IT ALL

and usually ppl end up making me feel dumb anyways so then usually i end up quieting down on reads after i feel dumb abt it

and what i cucrrently have makes it look like yall will make me feel dumb about it
okay, listen

if you are actually town here, we need you to explain your reads. it's not about being right or wrong or whether you look smart or dumb. it's the fact that if you do not explain yourself we cannot possibly understand your thought process. if you can't understand how someone is thinking then it's impossible to figure out if that person is town. that's the entire point of why i've been rying to get you to explain things. everyone looks dumb in this game. there's no reason to be afraid of it. your first concern should be with making yourself readable to other people.

this is a game about communication at its heart and everyone refused to communicate for fear of looking dumb he game would be impossible

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:24 pm
by marcistar
me trying to decide if i should continue after reading that

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:31 pm
by Gamma Emerald
@scamper not everyone seems the same things from this game
Some play to win, some play for fun, some play to win because winning is fun, and some play for something else, like me who seems the social connection this game and site provides.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:34 pm
by scamper
In post 2513, marcistar wrote:me trying to decide if i should continue after reading that
i'm trying to be helpful...
In post 2514, Gamma Emerald wrote:@scamper not everyone seems the same things from this game
Some play to win, some play for fun, some play to win because winning is fun, and some play for something else, like me who seems the social connection this game and site provides.
I'm not sure what your point is, exactly. I'm not talking about motivation for playing the game, I'm talking about the basis by which the game is played, which is communicating thoughts to one another

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:36 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2511, marcistar wrote:
In post 2040, Datisi wrote:yeah uh, a part of the reason why i was playing sorta scummily the whole game was because i was counting on the fact i can confirm myself
first off this is kinda stinky
I have played games as a confirmable role more fast-and-loose with the expectation that I had a panic button
So on paper Datisi has a point but idk if his play matches what he’s saying, since when I played this sort of game before I basically just spat my raw takes relentlessly without caring about whether it would get called inconsistent/opportunistic/etc.
basically, this is not a bad point but a deeper dive into Datisi’s play is recommended

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:37 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2515, scamper wrote:
In post 2513, marcistar wrote:me trying to decide if i should continue after reading that
i'm trying to be helpful...
In post 2514, Gamma Emerald wrote:@scamper not everyone seems the same things from this game
Some play to win, some play for fun, some play to win because winning is fun, and some play for something else, like me who seems the social connection this game and site provides.
I'm not sure what your point is, exactly. I'm not talking about motivation for playing the game, I'm talking about the basis by which the game is played, which is communicating thoughts to one another
Maybe Marci plays to feel smart, is my point.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:38 pm
by marcistar
In post 2515, scamper wrote:i'm trying to be helpful...
by lecturing me?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:40 pm
by scamper
literally all im saying is, if you're town just explain what you're thinking and don't worry about anything else. you have the floor here. i'm not gunna say anything until you're done

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:41 pm
by scamper
In post 2518, marcistar wrote:
In post 2515, scamper wrote:i'm trying to be helpful...
by lecturing me?
i'm trying to encourage you to actually explain yourself, i really dont know why that bothered you so much

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:06 pm
by Freedom
In post 2470, Ausuka wrote:I will say I think Freedom's behaviour is fairly clear cut the scummiest of anyone and the role claim is also probably the worst. Shoshin is the only thing that makes me doubt that push.
Why is my claim bad?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:08 pm
by Freedom
In post 2460, scamper wrote:
In post 2441, Freedom wrote:
In post 2439, Gamma Emerald wrote: I don’t like how half of Johnny’s “town reads” have a qualifier or dampening factor
Good catch.
Though, it could just be that those people are dominating the gamestate and constantly posting things that are likeable.
where do either of you see that? cuz all of his townreads look pretty unambiguous to me...
I mean he TRed Datisi and Ausuka but also Alex so you're right.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:14 pm
by marcistar
In post 2520, scamper wrote:
In post 2518, marcistar wrote:
In post 2515, scamper wrote:i'm trying to be helpful...
by lecturing me?
i'm trying to encourage you to actually explain yourself, i really dont know why that bothered you so much
how is it trying to be encouraging instead of lecturing

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:14 pm
by marcistar
In post 2522, Freedom wrote:
In post 2460, scamper wrote:
In post 2441, Freedom wrote:
In post 2439, Gamma Emerald wrote: I don’t like how half of Johnny’s “town reads” have a qualifier or dampening factor
Good catch.
Though, it could just be that those people are dominating the gamestate and constantly posting things that are likeable.
where do either of you see that? cuz all of his townreads look pretty unambiguous to me...
I mean he TRed Datisi and Ausuka but also Alex so you're right.
johnny is town :angry: