Game is in autowin from my perspective but I still want to get it right today and dispel any lingering doubts that I'm town
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:34 pm
by Somnus
Assuming the following two claims are correct, I would appreciate if Norwegian and Not_Mafia could full-claim in that exact order, please:
Penguin: Night 3 Doctor
Gamma: Night 4 Cop
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:35 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Penguin was a really bad check if true claim.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:36 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Which makes fake claim much more likely.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:37 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
I was night 3 doctor. Target Somnus that night. Afterwards pretended to be night 4 doctor.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:39 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Gamma checked Penguin. But conveniently me and N_M are the harder to solve slots based on the flips.
Gamma then comes in with an PoE of me and N_M.
It is obvious what they are doing here.
Don’t do N_M tommorow.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:42 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I have personal history of sucking at sorting PP, so imo that was a fine check
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:48 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Confirmed scum was on Penguin wagon yesterday.
It was the worst possible check.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:50 pm
by Somnus
In post 2504, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I was night 3 doctor. Target Somnus that night. Afterwards pretended to be night 4 doctor.
But why? Penguin had claimed night 3 doctor. Even if he were lying, scum!Penguin wouldn’t have been able to kill me that night without outing himself (unless you think he would have protected someone else?)
In post 2504, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I was night 3 doctor. Target Somnus that night. Afterwards pretended to be night 4 doctor.
But why? Penguin had claimed night 3 doctor. Even if he were lying, scum!Penguin wouldn’t have been able to kill me that night without outing himself (unless you think he would have protected someone else?)
I didn’t put much thought into it as i was reeling from the Kop elim.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:53 pm
by Not_Mafia
Something_Smart wrote:
This is where the Jake wagon begins to form. Norwee is on a counterwagon, Gamma is hanging back but I don't think that's particularly AI for him.
Something_Smart wrote:
Something_Smart wrote:
Are scum really this committed to the Enchant wagon? This is a set-up with a lot of potential guilties but it feels excessive for Norwee to be scum here with how poisoned the slot was from froggo
Something_Smart wrote:
2 scum hopping on hoping to get Penguin limmed or was Penguin a target from the beginning, it felt like organic wagon at the time with scum hopping on late
Something_Smart wrote:
Was the Kop wagon really pure?
Something_Smart wrote:
Something_Smart wrote:
Penguin was definitely seeming like he ready to hammer Bella, looks like Norwee hopping on for credit at the end there.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:54 pm
by Not_Mafia
Norwee why did you switch wagons all of a sudden yesterday?
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:56 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2511, Not_Mafia wrote:Norwee why did you switch wagons all of a sudden yesterday?
You want me to repeat what i had already laid out pretty plainly yesterday?
Really, I thought Nancy was pretty universally townread
somnus was "cleared" so while killing kop would have cleared somnus and provided an IC w/a potentially future-dated action with likely protects. killing somnus doesn't necessarily clear kop and eliminates that potential. what does killing nancy gain?
i guess there is something to be said for the wifom of scum clearing scum though.
There are potentially multiple docs per night in this set-up, any doc would have been on somnus
I was night 2 doc and of course protected Somnus, I hinted at it here
In post 2511, Not_Mafia wrote:Norwee why did you switch wagons all of a sudden yesterday?
You want me to repeat what i had already laid out pretty plainly yesterday?
I want a retrospective summary of why you changed and why you changed when you did, yes
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:00 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Read back on what i said or just don’t bother, it doesn’t matter to me either way. I don’t care enough to reiterate my solving process.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:01 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 2505, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Gamma checked Penguin. But conveniently me and N_M are the harder to solve slots based on the flips.
Gamma then comes in with an PoE of me and N_M.
It is obvious what they are doing here.
Don’t do N_M tommorow.
This is a good point actually, scum!Gamma can't come in with a guilty, so basically has to pick a slot to clear and conveniently it's Penguin who was defacto conf town
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:01 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
What’s important is scum was elimmed and that scum is limmed tommorow.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:02 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 2515, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Read back on what i said or just don’t bother, it doesn’t matter to me either way. I don’t care enough to reiterate my solving process.
Just humour me, I want to hear it from a less emotionally charged place
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:05 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
And tbh. I’d rather be the elim today and if i was wrong, game ends tommorow. Rather than possibly be wrong today and then told how scummy i am and then limmed in ElO.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:07 pm
by Not_Mafia
Okay, if you can't be bothered, I can't be bothered
In post 2515, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Read back on what i said or just don’t bother, it doesn’t matter to me either way. I don’t care enough to reiterate my solving process.
Just humour me, I want to hear it from a less emotionally charged place
I was always wary about Bella possibly just townreading me as an matter of convenience. Them turning their read around at the flip of an hat confirmed my suspicions to the point where i seriously began to consider they might be mafia, when they were put on E-1 with me as an possivle hammer. They then turned very quiet. Confirming to me that they were very likely mafia. It was an gamestate read essentially.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:09 pm
by Not_Mafia
UNVOTE:
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:11 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I think I have a unique angle on this game that might potentially solve things
In post 2515, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Read back on what i said or just don’t bother, it doesn’t matter to me either way. I don’t care enough to reiterate my solving process.
Just humour me, I want to hear it from a less emotionally charged place
I was always wary about Bella possibly just townreading me as an matter of convenience. Them turning their read around at the flip of an hat confirmed my suspicions to the point where i seriously began to consider they might be mafia, when they were put on E-1 with me as an possivle hammer. They then turned very quiet. Confirming to me that they were very likely mafia. It was an gamestate read essentially.
You were pretty aggressive against BBT though, what I'm trying to understand is why the turnaround was quick when your BBT read seemed so strong?
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