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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:18 pm
by Zdenek
Staeg wrote:
Zdenek wrote:and post hammer vote on Fritz is a concern.

Why is the post-hammer vote on fritz bad?

It's a concern because he was watching the wagon, it seemed like he was planning to hammer, he didn't hammer, but then felt the need to vote after. I think this sequence of events is weird. There are basically two possibilities he miscounted the votes or he was hoping the wagon wouldn't go to completion, but wanted to make sure that it was clear that he was willing to vote Fritz. I can't know which is the case.
TeChNoWC wrote:
Zdenek wrote:On the current people being pushed:

The only point about the bbmolla wagon that I think holds water is that that Rhinox was suspicious of him. The points against him dont't really separate him from anyone else.
I think Techno is scum, mostly because of his play since we've had two scum lynches and that fact that Rhinox was suspicious of him is a good poiint.
I am less certain about Spyrex. The fact that he's decided to only post hammers is annoying, and post hammer vote on Fritz is a concern.

Vote: Techno


And you think as scum I would kill off two people who were supposedly chasing me? (even though they clearly weren't).

My play has been sus lately I agree, but only because I am less confident in my ability to read this game. I have been wrong about every lynch so far.

I would have thought I would be more useful in the final fourteen but I doubt I'll make it or have trust either way now. If you want to lynch me that's fine, because I have no strong tells anymore. Lurker lynch or those connected to the two scum is all I have to go on. I will say though that lynching from connections to the NK's is dumb, as its all WIFOM and scum would rather set townies up than leave a trail of dead bodies that point to them.

Your first question is WIFOM. As to your second point:

imaginality wrote:Next reads:

++ redff - not a fan of the one-liner posting style but I get the sense from his posts that he's genuinely thinking and questioning, so that gives me a town feel...
+ SleepyKrew - unvoting due to absence gave me a good vibe, I feel like as scum he wouldn't necessarily have bothered to unvote...
+ Rhinox - lots of strategy, and policy votes, but good reasons for both, and I like that the reads he gave in 668 weren't just sheeping other people's suspects...
+ BBMolla - in a game with 50 players and 10 to lynch, I don't think scum would be so bold to throw out the "meh I don't care if I get lynched" line
=+ Zdenek - I agree with his reads particularly elmo, T-bone and Muffin...
= UberNinja - having fun isn't a scum tell; sure Uber could be doing more scumhunting, but since this is a 50-player game, I'm happy to give players who make me laugh leeway at this point, and focus on hunting the non-funny scum instead...
= SpyreX - his playstyle always gives me a baseline pro-town sense. This game he comes off as slightly less engaged than other games I've been in with him but on the other hand the rate of posting this game is crazy so I think that's pretty null right now. Definitely want to wait til the dust settles and see how he plays when we're not posting 25 pages a day
=- Captain Corporal - more please...
- MoS - one post, no content. Dislike the "I'm not going to read anything" approach: @MoS you don't need to read the whole game, just read the last page or so and look for scummy posts there...
- Robotnick2 - first post suggests he is or at least was paying slight attention to the game, so why didn't he give us anything more than that?

Yeah, not keen on this UberNinja wagon.
Of the above players, and yesterday's, I'd be fine with a Robotnick2 wagon if we want to lynch someone low-contributing.

But right now I want to

VOTE: TeChNoWC

for his fence-sitting and buddying. He seems like he's trying to get on everyone's good side, and his posts don't ring sincere to me. I'm interested to hear what others think.

Rhinox wrote:
TeChNoWC wrote:Not sure lynching lurkers will get us anywhere.

TeChNoWC wrote:I don't mind thinning him and seeing what we get; good chance he is one of the scummy lurkers.

Unvote
Vote: Lowman

This looks like a big contradiction. Like, you just said you didn't think it would get us anywhere but you did it anyways.

Rhinox wrote:
TeChNoWC wrote:
petapan wrote:VOTE: lowman

Let's lynch the lurkers. let's lynch all the lurkers.


Not sure lynching lurkers will get us anywhere. You feel it is hard to find scum in this setup, yet you think lynching lurkers will help us hit scum?

Still, lowman is a PL loving, wagon jumping, happy to kill town lurker scummy.

I don't mind thinning him and seeing what we get; good chance he is one of the scummy lurkers.

Unvote
Vote: Lowman


This is a bad post.

Do think there was any reason for the NK choices?

I'd be okay with lynching Zoraster, but I don't really want to go back to lynching the lurkers yet.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:36 pm
by Trevor
I'd be okay with lynching Zoraster, but I don't really want to go back to lynching the lurkers yet.

Blatant contradiction

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:45 pm
by UberNinja
zoraster wrote:do you even know what AtE means?

yes. now answer me: what were you trying to point out?

answering a question with a question and hoping i'll forget i asked it is bad play even for your kind

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:47 pm
by Zdenek
Trevor wrote:
I'd be okay with lynching Zoraster, but I don't really want to go back to lynching the lurkers yet.

Blatant contradiction

It's not a contradiction because thinking that something is acceptable, and wanting to do it, are not the same.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:49 pm
by Zdenek
Trevor, you still haven't answered my question about your case on Fritzler.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:00 pm
by Trevor
Zdenek wrote:Trevor, you still haven't answered my question about your case on Fritzler.

Because I don't feel like explaining to you why someone already dead was scummy.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:01 pm
by Zdenek
Trevor wrote:
Zdenek wrote:Trevor, you still haven't answered my question about your case on Fritzler.

Because I don't feel like explaining to you why someone already dead was scummy.

Were you bussing?

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:12 pm
by Trevor
Zdenek wrote:
Trevor wrote:
Zdenek wrote:Trevor, you still haven't answered my question about your case on Fritzler.

Because I don't feel like explaining to you why someone already dead was scummy.

Were you bussing?

I would say no as both alignments. Dumb question.

I was calling him scum, asking people not voting him to read his ISO and make a read based off it. End of discussion.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:16 pm
by Zdenek
Trevor wrote:
Zdenek wrote:
Trevor wrote:
Zdenek wrote:Trevor, you still haven't answered my question about your case on Fritzler.

Because I don't feel like explaining to you why someone already dead was scummy.

Were you bussing?

I would say no as both alignments. Dumb question.

I was calling him scum, asking people not voting him to read his ISO and make a read based off it. End of discussion.

So why is it scummy when someone doesn't come to the same conclusion as you?

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:23 pm
by Trevor
Have I called someone scum for townreading/not voting Spyrex?

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:27 pm
by Zdenek
Trevor wrote:Have I called someone scum for townreading/not voting Spyrex?

I'm not talking about Spyrex. Regarding Fritzler, you said,
Trevor wrote:Read Zdenek's [url=http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p4090855] last couple posts. I'm really mixed, as no scumbuddy would be that retarded to buddy and then rely on someone to save his ass, but it's still incredibly scummy.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:57 pm
by funkybike1
Trevor wrote:Have I called someone scum for townreading/not voting Spyrex?

...No.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:58 pm
by MattP
Can we lynch funkybike tomorrow at least?

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:59 pm
by Staeg
funkybike1 wrote:
Trevor wrote:Have I called someone scum for townreading/not voting Spyrex?

...No.

What the SHIT is this?

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:31 pm
by Trevor
Trevor wrote:Have I called someone scum for townreading/not voting Spyrex?

Sorry, meant to say Fritzler.

Zdenek wrote:
Trevor wrote:Have I called someone scum for townreading/not voting Spyrex?

I'm not talking about Spyrex. Regarding Fritzler, you said,
Trevor wrote:Read Zdenek's [url=http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p4090855] last couple posts. I'm really mixed, as no scumbuddy would be that retarded to buddy and then rely on someone to save his ass, but it's still incredibly scummy.

Yeah because 2307 is definitely me calling you scum.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:54 pm
by kondi2424
Trevor wrote:
Trevor wrote:Have I called someone scum for townreading/not voting Spyrex?

Sorry, meant to say Fritzler.


Is this a buddy-slip?

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:57 pm
by Trevor
kondi2424 wrote:
Trevor wrote:
Trevor wrote:Have I called someone scum for townreading/not voting Spyrex?

Sorry, meant to say Fritzler.


Is this a buddy-slip?

No, I confused their names.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:06 pm
by Zdenek
I've had a family emergency. So I have to go on V/LA.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:43 pm
by BBmolla
Mastermind of Sin wrote:I'm lurking BECAUSE I don't care. lol...

Same.

Lynch someone.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:25 pm
by mykonian
votecount


Spyrex (6): amrun, mattp, Jackal711, uberninja, syndromeofadown, TechnoWC
bbmolla (4): PeregrineV, staeg, callforjudgement, thetrollie
technowc (3): Ellibereth, Trevor, zdenek
sykedoc (1): theamatuer
amrun (1): hoopla
Kondi2424 (1): Redff
thetrollie (1): petapan
peregrinev (1): BBmolla
zoraster (1) zajnet

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:52 pm
by Nobody Special
Nobody Special wrote:Spyre

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:17 am
by TeChNoWC
UberNinja wrote:shhhh zoraster.

spyrex wanting person a before person b is fine, even if he's not voting them. there are still a shitload of people, so the order of lynches is semantics at this point

when we get down to many many less then it will be a valid point maybe but for now you are just spinning the wheels on your little red wagon and trying to look pro-town

and as far as you-town goes, you don't have a leg to stand on as far as i'm concerned.

zoraster wrote:when was that?

and i'm powerlurking because I was told I could because "no one will care for the first 10 weeks or so." So I really have no idea what's going on.

Amrun wrote:
SpyreX wrote:PS: If you lynch me and you see that wonderful town flip if the next flip is BB Molla AND NOT HOOPLA I will hunt you down in the netherworlds and make sure your spirits never find release.


Yeah, no. You still won't even explain why. As zoraster pointed out, you are not even VOTING Hoopla.


Oh, and, speaking of, zoraster could be scum. Last time I saw him powerlurk, we were scumbuddies.


Zoraster would be a good lynch after this.

Will vote if a wagon builds. Either way, he needs to go tommorrow.

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:46 am
by kondi2424
VOTE: SpyreX

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:46 am
by mykonian
ok, we had a stroke of luck. Deltawave volunteered as a replacement, and I have to say, he's a hero. He's going to be replacing Kairyuu.

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:47 am
by DeltaWave
oh god 102 pages

time for skimming