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In post 2523, Shoshin wrote:Vork, where are you? I'd like to discuss with you.

Can you remind me why you are town reading nom?

I have a lot of reasons for town Nom:

1. Nom's frustration that I'm not getting lynched feels very genuine & towny. Yes, scum are capable of faking this type of frustration but it's not likely.

2. The way Nom manipulated Salad to vote me -- as well as the way she's been trying to manipulate others into voting me -- comes from uninformed town more often than scum, because scum know I'm flipping town & thus know that they're going to look bad after my flip. It takes a very confident scum player to engage in such blatant manipulation, and that isn't Nom, at least not in my experience.

3. Nom's initial reasons for scumreading me are plausible -- she claims to be a tone-based player reading me off tone -- and everything else she's said about me makes sense from the perspective of a conf-biased tunnel.

4. Nom's absurdly hypocritical in ways that come from town more often than scum (e.g. calling me controlling/manipulative even though Nom's been posting substantially more controlling/manipulative stuff than me).

I have lingering doubts about Nom, of course. Her relentless tunnel on me obviously raises concerns and I've said so throughout the game. But when you zoom out & look at the big picture, she's town.

In post 2526, Shoshin wrote:because scum know I'm flipping town & thus know that they're going to look bad after my flip. It takes a very confident scum player to engage in such blatant manipulation, and that isn't Nom, at least not in my experience.

So you think that I'm wagoning you b/c I'm just confident scum?

lol

I am way more reserved as scum.

I thought you were sheeping Nom, Nero? That isn't "confidence," which is part of my problem with you.

but you are a claimed cop. No one was going to lynch you after you claimed. No scum ever, let alone scum Nero, is going to stick thier neck out like that.

I'm sheeping Nom yes, but that's b/c I think its a mechanical 1v1 between you 2 and you know this and thats why you are calling her town.

so even if you weren't getting lynched I'm going to use my voice and vote.

In post 2181, nomnomnom wrote:teacher's defense of shoshin despite him having a scumread on her is just incomprehensible.

like this prob means sho-teacher is a thing.

For the love of god do not lynch Nero.

like, thinking that scum Nero tries to lynch a claimed cop but not thinking that nom tried to do the same thing is just to me.

I'm scum that tried to bandwagon a cop with what ammo? Like how does anyone ever think that I'd do this? It seems like a great way to just get myself scum read


oh...

Like it's already really bad that we are not getting Shoshin lynched today, so if you end today with the worst possible lynch you are making this an extremely bad day 1 and I know you like making it seem like "lol it's only day 1 we can recover" but this is the kind of stuff that comes crashing like a castle of cards.

Just don't lynch nero.

TBF there's only like 2 town and cinnabunny. You should try reasoning with them b/c its not like scum are ever going to unvote.

In post 2536, Nero Cain wrote:TBF there's only like 2 town and cinnabunny. You should try reasoning with them b/c its not like scum are ever going to unvote.

tbh I don't feel like I have much power this game anyway, it feels like whatever stance I have, the entire playerlist save for a few people will go against it. I'm just frustrated.

I just want that one thing not to happen.

like sho knows she can not get nom lynched today so she's going for the next best thing. I'm not all that certain if Flubb is scum or not but he's in my way so we either lynch him today or no lynch.

b/c I doubt we could just flash wagon teacher.

In post 2526, Shoshin wrote:I have a lot of reasons for town Nom:

1. Nom's frustration that I'm not getting lynched feels very genuine & towny. Yes, scum are capable of faking this type of frustration but it's not likely.

2. The way Nom manipulated Salad to vote me -- as well as the way she's been trying to manipulate others into voting me -- comes from uninformed town more often than scum, because scum know I'm flipping town & thus know that they're going to look bad after my flip. It takes a very confident scum player to engage in such blatant manipulation, and that isn't Nom, at least not in my experience.

3. Nom's initial reasons for scumreading me are plausible -- she claims to be a tone-based player reading me off tone -- and everything else she's said about me makes sense from the perspective of a conf-biased tunnel.

4. Nom's absurdly hypocritical in ways that come from town more often than scum (e.g. calling me controlling/manipulative even though Nom's been posting substantially more controlling/manipulative stuff than me).

I am floored by this amount of discrediting, holy shit lol

Has there been a discussion about nom hard scum reading Shos and Shos not hard scum reading nom? Like I just wonder how ppl are reconciling those two extremes.

anyways, im going to a BBQ. No lynching me while I'm gone (or even when I'm here)

In post 2541, Nero Cain wrote:Has there been a discussion about nom hard scum reading Shos and Shos not hard scum reading nom? Like I just wonder how ppl are reconciling those two extremes.

Have you never seen a townie tunnel another townie? This isn't difficult to reconcile.

Why do you think Nom's town, Nero?

i have like an hour and hten i won't be around till deadline, just saying

not planning on switching to flubber either

I'll vote Flubb before deadline to prevent no lynch.

i mean i guess i would too but i'm not going to be aroudn then to gauge the wagons/gamestate so

How are you feeling about Nero, Skitter?

not great