2235: Gensokyo ~ END ~

[GuyInFreezer]

No comment
Absolutely no comment at all

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea using the hider as an investigative would've been quite difficult to beat :<

[GuyInFreezer]

I am groot

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah, I stand by think Yukari’s plan was terrible

[GuyInFreezer]

Yeah, I stand by think Yukari’s plan was terrible

Which Yukari's plan?

The one that was guaranteed to give town the win 100%?

Or the one that even with the worst case scenario, managed to mech clear two towns?

[StrangeMatter]

Me hiding behind Reg was actually to do two things. Confirm they are town and therefore confirm Norwegian as well. Second was the actual mistake of assuming Yukari was doctor which she wasn’t and that’s the last time I trust Doctor claims in Upick lmao.

[Gamma Emerald]

The one where Reg and Sanae died because Yukari couldn’t fucking read her role PM right

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah, I stand by think Yukari’s plan was terrible

???

If you had followed my plan the game would have been a win.

At any point.


Yukari and I were the only ones who had any sense at that point.

Please wake up from your arrogance, because you cost the game. You legitimately thought that Norwee could be scum here when they could have killed and won the game point blank.

[Kilgamayan]

:toot:

[Lady Lambdadelta]

:toot:

don't you Honk Honk at me.

[StrangeMatter]

Otherwise, before claiming doctor confirm it is doctor and not something else so things like that don’t happen.

[Lukewarm]

Oh, Aaron is why cakez didn't get my money lol

[Kilgamayan]

Scum PT: 48 hours for redactions

I don't think I have anything I want to redact, but Sanny may think differently.

[Gamma Emerald]

I should never have been a suspect after I contributed to KA and Kilga getting yeeted like I did. If you wanted me to actually buy into your plan, pushing me was not the way to do it. I wanted Sanae’s head anyway, so had I gotten my way we just win without needing any night plan.

[Lukewarm]

Please wake up from your arrogance, because you cost the game. You legitimately thought that Norwee could be scum here when they could have killed and won the game point blank.

I was not following super closely - I forgot that norwee was mech cleared x.x

[StrangeMatter]

Focusing on reads is good and all but it sometimes ends up ignoring important mechanics.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, why am I getting crap when Norwee LITERALLY BABYRAGE SELF-HAMMERED IN ELO???

[Gamma Emerald]

Like, I should NOT be catching the ration of shit that I am.

[Lukewarm]

I feel bad for leaving, and it was also a bit frustrating to watch the thread decide to kill off my entire list of town reads like it was a hit list or something lmao

General:

I think that

Yukari

, Reg, and

Norwee

are town.
....
GTH,

LLD

is still town,

[Lukewarm]

Also, why am I getting crap when Norwee LITERALLY BABYRAGE SELF-HAMMERED IN ELO???

I agree that his self hammer was probably not the right play for him to make lmao

[Kakeguri Addicts]

[GuyInFreezer]

The one where Reg and Sanae died because Yukari couldn’t fucking read her role PM right

And even that enabled the mech clear on two town because Yukari never planned anything around her being the doctor in the first place, and only planned the whole things around her having a 1-shot commute.

I should never have been a suspect after I contributed to KA and Kilga getting yeeted like I did. If you wanted me to actually buy into your plan, pushing me was not the way to do it. I wanted Sanae’s head anyway, so had I gotten my way we just win without needing any night plan.

And Yukari has told you countless times that in the end the read did not matter because the auto-win plan involved limming two non-mech-contributers. Had you been limmed Day 4, sure it would've sucked for you. But it was going to be 100% town win Day 5 via mech solve and double death would not have happened because SM would've been safe behind LLD. Like, Mafia is a team game in the end. It was plainly obvious to Yukari that you denied the mech solve and everything that was related to that solve simply because it involved limming you. Also, with your logic why was Yukari ever limmed when she had 2/3 scum in her PoE list Day 1 and was literally the only one who fought tooth and nail to protect town-LLD from getting limmed by silly reason? Even then she accepted the lim Day 5, even though in her head it was literally impossible for her to be scum, because two town were mech-cleared and the game was supposed to be over with town win anyway. When Yukari asked mod the question about strongman, she already knew that strongman did not exist because of the way mod answered to her. And yet, she openly discussed the possibility of strongman in order to get more certain clears if possible. And it did happen. You were literally mech-cleared because we established that strongman would've caused delay to fail and Norwee would've learned that his action has failed, and his action was successful. The fact that you were mech cleared was the sole reason that Norwee let you have a hammer in the first place. Like, yes. I'm sure Yukari is super salty and mad about this game, but I think she is willing to swallow that and approach you in non-sassy, non-sarcastic manner and tell you that you need to understand that mechanics are as important as reads in Mafia games. Like yes, your reads were pretty good. But in the end, it was your negligence to game mechanics that ultimately led you to a wrong decision at the most critical moment.

Also, why am I getting crap when Norwee LITERALLY BABYRAGE SELF-HAMMERED IN ELO???

Because I believe that is unrelate to your own mistake. With that said, I think Yukari is mad at Norwee more than she is mad at Gamma. The self-hammer was pretty atrocious. But it is mostly because she thinks that Norwee did not try hard enough before conceding. She thinks if he continued pushing the mech-clear aspect that was established at Day 4, the result wouldn't had to be this catastrophic. And town was STILL in a pretty good place. All it had to be done was to convince Gamma that he was literally confirmed town. And it shouldn't have been that hard to do that. I believe Yukari mentioned that she does not consider conceding as violating the site rule. But this instance was a moment where town still had a huge advantage and he just threw it away because... he couldn't take few posts of suspicions. Like, maybe Norwee tried to appeal his towniness by self-hammering and have you undo that with governor ability. That would've been pretty understandable although it's not an optimal play. But I don't think that's the case here.

[GuyInFreezer]

By the way it only took until N4 until the mod told Yukari that her role was actually not a doctor because she called her action “protect” when she’ve been submitting her action as “protect” the whole time. Her plan took every precaution of her somehow failing to save her target. Her entire plan was to dissuade scum from taking certain action by publicly announcing target. She actually lied about Reg/SM dying being the worst case scenario because she knew that it would at least clear a non-Norwee townie and was (correctly) banking on Norwee being town. (She did say that the point where LLD was limmed meant no more guaranteed town-win but still high chance of town-win, remember?) She did not expect that her actually not being a doctor causing to be the reason to fail the save though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That loss was basically all on Norwee at the end for getting pissed at reasonable doubt.
Also we would’ve won Day 4 if y’all idiots didn’t try to vote me out! I was basically all but voting Sanae until that happened.

Yes it’s my fault that you didn’t give a shit and focused entirely on your bias against me rather than solving fairly as i asked you to.

[Gamma Emerald]

I was trying to solve fairly. I don’t feel like my questions were out of line.