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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:22 am
by Kerset
Vote Count 2.09With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Milk & Mocha (3): Dwlee99, Enchant, RH9,
RH9 (2): numberQ, Voyc,
Alyssa The Lamb (2): Harley Quinn, Firebringer,
Voyc (2): Three, mc esther,
Enchant (1): MegAzumarill,
Three (1): Alyssa The Lamb,
Firebringer (0):
numberQ (0):
mc esther (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting
(1): Milk & Mocha,
Deadline:
(expired on 2022-01-08 22:16:26)


Harley Quinn is on V/LA

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:28 am
by mc esther
i might be heading to bed [relatively] soon. i'll be back in ~12 hours (give or take), i cant be so active all-[irl]-day tomorrow but i'll be able to respond to major developments and keep my vote useful. hoping people manage to sift out the "definitely not happening" wagons and start to converge on something decent while i'm asleep.

assuming it's between voyc/mocha/rh9, rh9 is my least favourite. voyc is probably my slightly preferred wagon over mocha, but it's hard to say.

i would literally rather force a no-elim than vote enchant (jester) or alyssa (absent players simply shouldnt be eliminated in a game with ics), anyone else is fair game as far as im concerned.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:31 am
by mc esther
numberq, three, and dwlee99 would be really disappointing eliminations that i'd be pretty mad about, but theyre not in the same "literally would never vote for" basket as enchant/alyssa

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:53 am
by Three
In post 2524, mc esther wrote:so three, youre not willing to do mocha?
I think they're likely Jester and that Enchant is just VT. I don't necessarily want to townlock Enchant, but I'm struggling to see him post like that as scum.

M&M gets flash yeeted at 4 town if they don't get stumped though.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:57 am
by mc esther
In post 2528, Three wrote:M&M gets flash yeeted at 4 town if they don't get stumped though.
i disagree with you on a lot, but im totally on board with "sort out jester shit at 4 town"

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:01 am
by mc esther
i should be more explicit: yeah, i see the argument that mocha's jester, i dont really believe that, but it definitely makes sense to defer making a uh mechanical call on it

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:07 am
by Enchant
In post 2528, Three wrote:
In post 2524, mc esther wrote:so three, youre not willing to do mocha?
I think they're likely Jester and that Enchant is just VT. I don't necessarily want to townlock Enchant, but I'm struggling to see him post like that as scum.

M&M gets flash yeeted at 4 town if they don't get stumped though.
Why i am VT exactly

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:11 am
by mc esther
oooh i like this i might stay up if people are on

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:36 am
by Dwlee99
VOTE: Voyc

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:08 am
by Three
In post 2529, mc esther wrote:
In post 2528, Three wrote:M&M gets flash yeeted at 4 town if they don't get stumped though.
i disagree with you on a lot, but im totally on board with "sort out jester shit at 4 town"
Fair.
In post 2530, mc esther wrote:i should be more explicit: yeah, i see the argument that mocha's jester, i dont really believe that, but it definitely makes sense to defer making a uh mechanical call on it
Yeah I'm only half believing it myself, so I understand the case against it.
In post 2531, Enchant wrote:
In post 2528, Three wrote:
In post 2524, mc esther wrote:so three, youre not willing to do mocha?
I think they're likely Jester and that Enchant is just VT. I don't necessarily want to townlock Enchant, but I'm struggling to see him post like that as scum.

M&M gets flash yeeted at 4 town if they don't get stumped though.
Why i am VT exactly
Because I want scum to NK you.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:26 am
by mc esther
enchant, assuming for a moment that youre not jester: im pretty sure mocha's not getting eliminated since three's posts. are there any other eliminations youre okay with?

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:31 am
by MegAzumarill
@kerset ia Deadline frozen for Alyssa replacement or no


no

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:34 am
by Enchant
In post 2535, mc esther wrote:enchant, assuming for a moment that youre not jester: im pretty sure mocha's not getting eliminated since three's posts. are there any other eliminations youre okay with?
Depends on arguments, i really don't understand why Voyc wagoned for example.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:38 am
by mc esther
just that this thread already tends to stall out and it would be a shame to eliminate an active player right now, i think

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:40 am
by Dwlee99
I thought the argument was coasting

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:41 am
by mc esther
yeah idk i havent really read enough of the thread to make that call yet but sure that sounds vaguely plausible

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:44 am
by Dwlee99
Look I'm kinda just following your lead cause deadline

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:49 am
by Enchant
In post 2538, mc esther wrote:just that this thread already tends to stall out and it would be a shame to eliminate an active player right now, i think
Active =/= Town

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:52 am
by mc esther
ahkay
In post 2522, Three wrote:the lack of urgency on their part makes me think they've simply been coasting this entire time
i know that enchant, but how are we going to sort tomorrow with a dead thread? and, today, do you think we can come go an actual consensus read before deadline?

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:56 am
by Enchant
I droped fear of jester long ago.

Only motivation to not kill Jester is +1 elim on mafia needed.

I think chaos and havok created by simple existence of jest already cost us far more.


We can't just let idiots to let fool us with jestering unpunished.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:59 am
by mc esther
okay i do actually believe youre town now, so that's something

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:59 am
by mc esther
how do you feel about rh9?

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:05 am
by Voyc
curious as to whether you've read my iso, mc esther?
I mean, if we're talking about players that have been coasting throughout the game, we can look at Enchant, Alyssa, Dwlee
Post count doesn't mean everything, I think?

I would really still prefer an RH9 wagon but if we're going by the inactive/coasting reasoning, I would rather go for Dwlee
There's nothing from them other than a weak push on Mocha and a bit of activity and sheeping from when mc esther came into the thread with effort
was originally thinking Alyssa, but I understand + agree w Mc esther's reasoning

And Three, yeah, with the deadline paused so much, I'm not acting with a sense of urgency
I don't think that's necessarily a problem

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:06 am
by Voyc
tbf I thought the deadline had paused again until just now

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:06 am
by Dwlee99
DIE