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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:37 am
by Stephen A Smith
In post 2523, wavemode wrote:if nero is town he will have a result for us tonight. it could be very critical information

why is eliminating him today so goddamn urgent
cuz i think he's scum and i dont give a shit what result he makes up

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:37 am
by wavemode
FWIW I've played in a normal that had a gunsmith and backup gunsmith

we mopped up the mafia team then lost to an SK :lol:

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:38 am
by Stephen A Smith
ok but have you played in a datisi setup before

the last time I did with a gunsmith it was some convoluted bullshit like informed gunsmith in a game where the three mafia were all doctors

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:41 am
by Dwlee99
Hard claiming no investigative result on eyes here. I just think they're scum

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:45 am
by wavemode
after an eventual massclaim, setup spec will determine whether their roles are feasible or not, and whether their results are correct or not. and if not, we've caught 2 scum in one package

that's why I highlighted that their claiming together ties them together in a very risky way

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:45 am
by Andante
In post 2499, Dwlee99 wrote:Andante
the worst
Umlaut
Scorpious
Eyes without a face

In preference order (highest most want to lim)

Eyes
Scorpius
Umlaut
The Worst/Andante (kinda same feeling of just like "meh poe")
you want to most lim me? this is the first I'm hearing you sus me... like, you've wanted eyes dead all day? idk I'm confused on reading this, I'm top and bottom, so you most and least want me dead?

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:46 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2524, Stephen A Smith wrote:like on a power level

those literally don't move the needle

it's literally garbage

and considering you're claiming some kind of guilty on Eyes I think you should be skeptical too

unless I guess you're saying you're odd night gunsmith

which then lol fuck this setup
I mean we also have a 1-shot rolecop claim and presumably 1-3 more possible town PRs out there

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:46 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2530, Andante wrote:
In post 2499, Dwlee99 wrote:Andante
the worst
Umlaut
Scorpious
Eyes without a face

In preference order (highest most want to lim)

Eyes
Scorpius
Umlaut
The Worst/Andante (kinda same feeling of just like "meh poe")
you want to most lim me? this is the first I'm hearing you sus me... like, you've wanted eyes dead all day? idk I'm confused on reading this, I'm top and bottom, so you most and least want me dead?
The second list is the ordered one, first list was copied from the OP

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:47 am
by Andante
In post 2532, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2530, Andante wrote:
In post 2499, Dwlee99 wrote:Andante
the worst
Umlaut
Scorpious
Eyes without a face

In preference order (highest most want to lim)

Eyes
Scorpius
Umlaut
The Worst/Andante (kinda same feeling of just like "meh poe")
you want to most lim me? this is the first I'm hearing you sus me... like, you've wanted eyes dead all day? idk I'm confused on reading this, I'm top and bottom, so you most and least want me dead?
The second list is the ordered one, first list was copied from the OP
then why is it only the 5 of us? there's more than 5 people here

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:47 am
by Dwlee99
Cause I townread the other five and I'm the sixth person not included

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:49 am
by Andante
so you don't tr me? interesting

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:50 am
by Dwlee99
Not really no

I think you're kinda null rn

The parts of you I want to townread I think fooled me when you were scum so I'm cautious here

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:51 am
by Stephen A Smith
These are all of the Mini Normals Datisi has ever modded:



MN2245

setup1x town ascetic activated innocent child
1x town 2-shot macho simple neapolitan
1x town babysitter
1x town lazy roleblocker
6x vt

1x mafia informed backup ascetic (there is a town ascetic activated innocent child in the game)
1x mafia 1-shot rolestopper backup ascetic
1x mafia backup ascetic

public info: all members of the mafia are backup ascetics. they may or may not have additional roles and/or modifiers.


MN 2205


setuptown:
1x town non-consecutive night neapolitan
1x town night 2 rolecop
1x town 1-shot detective
1x town informed gunsmith (there are 4 players in the game that show up as having a gun)
6x vt

scum:
1x mafia informed doctor (there is an informed town member aware that 4 players in the game show up as having a gun)
2x mafia doctor

public information: a mafia doctor (with or without modifiers) is confirmed to exist in the game



MN2187


setuptown:
1x town innocent child jailkeeper enabler
1x town joat (neapolitan, gunsmith, tracker)
1x town 3-shot vigilante
1x bulletproof townie
6x vt

scum:
1x mafia multitasking jailkeeper
1x mafia informed ([player] is a town innocent child jailkeeper enabler; there are no town-aligned aliens, babysitters, bodyguards, commuters, doctors, hiders, jailkeepers or rolestoppers, backups for one of these roles, or joats with the ability from at least one of these roles)
1x mafia bulletproof enabler


MN 2163


setuptown:
1x town informed loyal cop (informed there is at least one mafia member with the rolestopper ability)
1x town jailkeeper
1x town commuter
1x town checker miller
6x VT

scum:
1x mafia rolestopper
1x mafia n1 informed (informed there is a town informed loyal cop)
1x mafia goon



common features:

4 TPRs in each Setup
No Backups Ever
Convoluted TPRs.


Now if we actually have EN Gunsmith and Gunsmith backup and One Shot Role Cop as three of our TPRs our town is like kind of fucked on a PR level if we're dealing with the standard datisi 4 TPR setup because lol wut.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:52 am
by Andante
I was a gs in a datisi game where maf was all docs. it was great!

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:53 am
by Dwlee99
We are probably not looking at 4 TPRs unless the fourth is ridiculously strong

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:54 am
by Stephen A Smith
I can't even think of a TPR strong enough to make up for the weaksauce that are the three claimed TPRs rn

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:55 am
by Stephen A Smith
I see no reason why Datisi would deviate from his four TPR mod meta he is a creature of habit and an artist and he likes things that look a certain way

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:55 am
by Andante
wait what's the 3rd pr claimed?
gs, gs backup, and?

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:55 am
by Andante
I think the gs backup claim is extremely sus

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:56 am
by Dwlee99
Literally though like this info will come out on other days. We probably have an even-night vigilante or something else that can pick up as having a gun (I mean, backup gunsmith already fulfills that purpose of being a gun miller in a sense), so we should just go with limming scum like normal

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:56 am
by Stephen A Smith
I mean gunsmith kind of implies the existence of some sort of vig so Novice Multi Shot vig might work but even that is a stretch imo esp. Also there's so much swing if you put all the town power into a single vig role that cant fire on night one and there's no protective in the setup

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:56 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2542, Andante wrote:wait what's the 3rd pr claimed?
gs, gs backup, and?
A 1-shot rolecop that confirmed the GS backup

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:57 am
by Stephen A Smith
the rolecop claimed he investigated the gs backup? lol what

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:57 am
by Andante
VOTE: eyes
if we can't yeet a pr, I'm down to yeet the one who voluntarily claimed VT d1

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:57 am
by Andante
yeah I recall reading that..