In post 2515, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Read back on what i said or just don’t bother, it doesn’t matter to me either way. I don’t care enough to reiterate my solving process.
Just humour me, I want to hear it from a less emotionally charged place
I was always wary about Bella possibly just townreading me as an matter of convenience. Them turning their read around at the flip of an hat confirmed my suspicions to the point where i seriously began to consider they might be mafia, when they were put on E-1 with me as an possivle hammer. They then turned very quiet. Confirming to me that they were very likely mafia. It was an gamestate read essentially.
You were pretty aggressive against BBT though, what I'm trying to understand is why the turnaround was quick when your BBT read seemed so strong?
If Bella is scum then BBT would not be scum with them.
Unlike what Penguin insinuates, i am in fact not an death-tunneler. I can change my reads pretty quick if i realize it is illogical for a slot to be scum.
And like i pointed out yesterday. BBT was one of the most unalligned slots with Bella. So increasing scumread concludes BBT= town.
It is logical like all of my thoughts.
In post 2515, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Read back on what i said or just don’t bother, it doesn’t matter to me either way. I don’t care enough to reiterate my solving process.
Just humour me, I want to hear it from a less emotionally charged place
I was always wary about Bella possibly just townreading me as an matter of convenience. Them turning their read around at the flip of an hat confirmed my suspicions to the point where i seriously began to consider they might be mafia, when they were put on E-1 with me as an possivle hammer. They then turned very quiet. Confirming to me that they were very likely mafia. It was an gamestate read essentially.
You were pretty aggressive against BBT though, what I'm trying to understand is why the turnaround was quick when your BBT read seemed so strong?
If Bella is scum then BBT would not be scum with them.
Unlike what Penguin insinuates, i am in fact not an death-tunneler. I can change my reads pretty quick if i realize it is illogical for a slot to be scum.
And like i pointed out yesterday. BBT was one of the most unalligned slots with Bella. So increasing scumread concludes BBT= town.
It is logical like all of my thoughts.
Sounds more like trading one death tunnel for another tbh, this really feels insubstantial and like you contrived a reason with Bella in the scum PT as an excuse to be on the wagon before Penguin got there
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:25 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 2501, Somnus wrote:Assuming the following two claims are correct, I would appreciate if Norwegian and Not_Mafia could full-claim in that exact order, please:
Penguin: Night 3 Doctor
Gamma: Night 4 Cop
And I would appreciate it if you could color me green in your votecounts now.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:31 pm
by Somnus
I had to stop myself from just YOLO voting this. It looks like I'm going to be forced to do my due diligence and put in a little bit more time going back through ISOs, but I have a feeling it's not really going to matter. I don't see a reasonable way that we're dealing with Is_Mafia. It means he shipped Froggo/Jake very early with several cops still in the game, and then shipped Bella with X amount of cops still in the game. It also means all of the reads and observations that he made that aligned with a lot of my unspoken thoughts somehow mirrored mine. I'll go through his ISO and try to keep an open mind, but I just don't see it this game. At all. He's been my top town-read. I can say that he's had a stellar game,
regardless of his alignment
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If mafia wants to concede so that we can all move on to other games or other ventures and hug it out post-game, I won't think any less of you whatsoever. If that's not happening though, you're making me do more homework for this game that probably won't change anything, so I'm gonna be a little bit of a salty pickle. Not much, but a little.
In post 2501, Somnus wrote:Assuming the following two claims are correct, I would appreciate if Norwegian and Not_Mafia could full-claim in that exact order, please:
Penguin: Night 3 Doctor
Gamma: Night 4 Cop
And I would appreciate it if you could color me green in your votecounts now.
I wasn't home. I've been on mobile for the last however many hours. Happy?
In post 2501, Somnus wrote:Assuming the following two claims are correct, I would appreciate if Norwegian and Not_Mafia could full-claim in that exact order, please:
Penguin: Night 3 Doctor
Gamma: Night 4 Cop
And I would appreciate it if you could color me green in your votecounts now.
I wasn't home. I've been on mobile for the last however many hours. Happy?
@mod, why hasn’t goldfish being prodded or replaced yet? It’s been almost 3 1/2 days now since they last posted?
Goldfish was prodded in the last VC. She has about an hour before I will start looking for a replacement.
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:43 pm
by PenguinPower
Meh. Mafia isn’t conceding. They have to at least try to win.
There are so many arguments for either gamma or norwe. I’m leaning more toward gamma but want to yeet norwe anyway. I can be convinced fairly easily to let that go though.
There are so many arguments for either gamma or norwe. I’m leaning more toward gamma but want to yeet norwe anyway. I can be convinced fairly easily to let that go though.
I would almost rather go now unless you can assure me you’re going to look at NM with a close eye tomorrow if it comes to that
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:31 pm
by PenguinPower
I will not consider N_M.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:31 pm
by PenguinPower
Sounds like Somnus won’t either so…
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:31 pm
by PenguinPower
Games on autopilot at this point.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:33 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I think the best point I can make for me being town is I am a lot more keen on seeing how people wouldn’t be aligned with my scum partners when at least one of the players in question has a certain line they wouldn’t let a scum partner cross. So me having to figure it out during Day 3 wrt ND39 and froggo doesn’t make sense for me to have done as scum.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:34 pm
by Somnus
I'm gonna begrudgingly do my homework since I'm not seeing and go through his ISO since I'm not seeing a peaceful white flag, but yeah with everything I mentioned before, there's not really a universe where I'm voting for him today and probably not tomorrow either.
In post 2473, Gamma Emerald wrote:Is there a reason NM is not on the table for you PP?
I'll be blunt, I do kinda think it's possible he's been playing nice to avoid setting people off
i think his voting record is pretty town indicative. I disagree that he's been playing "nice" as in trying not to agitate anyone. He was fairly antagonistic toward jake for as much as n_m can be antagonistic. Maybe he's pocketed me, but it actually feels like he's been sorting slots and I think scum is much more likely in you/norwe.
In post 2479, PenguinPower wrote:I mean - yeah, that's why I want to start with you if I'm being honest with myself
it feels like you're letting yourself fall into the same trap you were kinda in during that PYP game with scumdrasse
that's why I checked you last night, I didn't want to repeat that debate on my end
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You'll have to refresh my memory on which game that was.
Still a thing you didn’t answer.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:34 pm
by Somnus
In post 2547, Somnus wrote:I'm gonna begrudgingly do my homework and go through his ISO since I'm not seeing a peaceful white flag, but yeah with everything I mentioned before, there's not really a universe where I'm voting for him today and probably not tomorrow either.
