Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[pidgey]

But one would have to be prioritized that way.

My PM says nothing about someone being hit by 2 religious dudes in a night. No idea how that resolves itself.

[Chara]

why not just ask Venmar how your role and Dunker's flipped role would resolve with each other?

[Almost50]

Almost: 95%? you must tell me what happened in between your last read on me and this one. :>

I don't want to do the extra work of ISOing and quoting you. Suffice it to say the way you're handling me/Gamma/Nero is very much town you. Or you could always say it's gut and I have not seen something scummy from you.

P.S. Also the very fact that you cared to ask about it rather than just be content I'm TRing you.

[Gamma Emerald]

But if my reads aren't good this game then my townreads won't be accurate, hmm...

The Kiana paradox.

Well just trust the pure townreads idk

[Gamma Emerald]

scum pushing each other and distancing from each other is a thing. I believe I read something about you interacting with your scumbuds as scum with you refuting and saying that you no longer bus. Can you answer my question now?

As for this it's marshy I believe who said I interact with my scumbuddies while trying to argue I'm scum, and Ran responded saying I don't hard bus. While I

might

hard bus I don't do it if I don't see good reason to. I didn't have a reason to bus Dunker super-hard. I feel like there were way I could have dealt with his push on me that were less confrontational. In addition I could have also not called his defense of Dunker a scum one if I was buddies with him. As for

why

this is my bussing style I'll just link the game where I bussed way too hard and crippled my team.

This game. What's funny is Dunker was in that game.

[Gamma Emerald]

I am so down for lynching Gamma. If he's the remaining scum of a team, then we only have 2 scum left to handle, with one nightkill deducted. That's so good for us, we have so many town remaining. Power Roles at night and Resolutions during the day will weed out the remaining scum.

VOTE: Kiana Kaslana

I am so down for lynching Kiana Kaslana for wanting to lynch a claimed TPR and not even considering he might be what he says he is.

The argument she provides is lame.. "if he is the remaining member of the Red team". What if he isn't?? No, she won't consider that at all.

But he's just a PR, not necessarily Town... What's wrong with lynching scum?

Well the issue with your argument is you're doign possibilities versus probabilities. You say

if

I flip red, but there's no real value to that because the chance is very low. I don't think you're scum for it though because you're not familiar with how that might be a bad idea. Basically scum like to argue possbilities to open up options, while town will think about what is probable in the circumstances. As such if you

were

an experienced player this sort of theorizing would be somewhat scummy.

[Gamma Emerald]

It's more likely that he chose a scum target. 3 Kills have to be accounted for. Unless there are 3 scum factions, or a vigilante to worked tonight (unlikely), there cannot account for 3 kills.

Talk to me more. Why is it less likely for a Town Vig to have acted than both scum factions shooting each other? Cuz that's what you're saying. You're saying Elbrin died of his weak role, and a Vig didn't act, so Orange shot Dunker and Red shot Varsoon.

That's correct. I think it's less likely for a Vig to be in the game in the first place, and even if he was, the fact that he tried to shoot N1. This is just purely speculation on my part, I have nothing to back it up. Just a guess.

On this site there's a meta of vigs shooting n1 (at least I think that's the meta?). What is your homesite if you have one?

[Gamma Emerald]

I buy the arguments for a town Gamma and definitely want to give him another night to provide results. I think Nero's push is bad

What arguments are those?

All I remember seeing is an argument that we shouldn't lynch a claimed JOAT today. I feel like the JOAT claim is a little sketch. Like dude got tracked so he had to claim something that was plausible and the "WAIT I'M NOT A WATCHER!" Kinda gives him a little wiggle room. I also feel like he totally should have waited to use his watch when Brass wasn't protected. I still feel like his content is confusing and potentially scum motivated.

Me being wrong isn't a foregone conclusion but the wagon on him feels mostly town so what: Am I just wrong and scum are sheeping me? Gamma hasn't really talked about this either and it's shortsighted at best.

There's also a potential guilty.

What made you track Gamma?

The JOAT claim wouldn't have happened if people didn't think to direct me. I claimed my actual role when I realized not claiming was possibly a bad idea. I didn't want to lead people on wrt to my role. Maybe it was a bad idea now that I think about it but in the moment it felt like the wrong thing to do. As for waiting to do the watch I thought about that but I didn't know if WC powers targeting someone showed up so I thought it would be nice to find out about that.
As for the other stuff: ummmmm what? Yeah there's likely scum on my wagon but they're not sheeping you, they're sheeping the "guilty". I mean you mention it in the next line so I don't get why you don't think scum could be following that.

[Chara]

i want to call that town!

[Gamma Emerald]

We are lynching Gamma. He fake claims PR as scum all the time. He did it as scum in a game I just finished with him. Lynch him. This IS his scum defense.

> has one example
> he does it all the time

btw that was the

second

time I fakeclaimed PR as scum, and the first time I did outside of an open setup. So I'd love to hear why you think I'm fakeclaiming now when I'm very resistant to it normally.

[Joey_]

Gamma being town is annoying

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma being town is annoying

why? Am I annoying as town or is the idea annoying?

[marshy]

sup guys

i still think gamma is scum. his play here reminds me of the last game i played with him and another where he was indy i modded. that said if theres doubt we have plenty of other prospects and ima suggest we go with an actiondan lynch today

VOTE: actiondan

[marshy]

Votecount 2.4

[1]

Nero Cain:

Shaziro

[1]

Kiana Kaslana:

Almost50

[0] brassherald:

[0] Bujaber:

[0] Kokichi Oma:

[0] Chara:

[4]

Gamma Emerald:

Nero Cain, marshy, Titus, Kiana Kaslana

[0] Klazam:

[0] Titus:

[1]

Shaziro:

Chara

[0] ActionDan:

[0] Joey_:

[0] pidgey:

[0] jodaxq:

[0] almost50:

[1]

marshy:

BuJaber

[1]

ranmaru:

Jodaxq

Not Voting

• brassherald, Kokichi Koma, Klazam, ActionDan, Joey_, pidgey, ranmaru, Gamma Emerald

Deadline

• In (expired on 2018-03-27 09:00:00)
  
• Tuesday, March 27th @9:00am PST

Mod Notes:

• With 17 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch.
  
• Titus is V/LA until Sunday

nero myself and ran are all terrible plays. idk what kiana is but id still go ad before her. shaz i had as slight town. i dont think hes the best play either

[marshy]

beyond gamma/actiondan i was thinking like klazam. im not sure past that. i thought a50 was scum but his play has improved. im prolly tring a scum or two. ill need to look back to see who whiteknighted gamma cuz at least one scum pulls that due to inside knowledge

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: marshy
And that is a whole lot of

on that fucking responsibility dodge

[marshy]

wat

[Gamma Emerald]

> says I'm scum
> opts for another lynch
> discredits all but one option that is currently being voted besides me
tells me you don't actually want to be on my wagon for when I flip town

[marshy]

lol. youve pegged my master plan gamma

feel free to blame if gamma flips town everyone! i was gonna do this in big text but didnt want venmar to correct me again lol

[ActionDan]

I'd vote Kiana over Marshy ftr.

and both over Gamma who's probably town.

[Almost50]

Can we get the congress done with so we can actually lynch scum, please?

[Klazam]

Can we get the congress done with so we can actually lynch scum, please?

PLEASE

[Joey_]

Gamma being town is annoying

why? Am I annoying as town or is the idea annoying?

the idea

[Joey_]

Nero Cain (2), Kiana Kaslana (1), pidgey (1), marshy (2), ranmaru (1)

Unsure but i think those are the remaining delegates
@Marshy can you vote next post, same for nero since both of you voting on me will hammer the WC

[Kokichi Oma]

Just vote Joey so he has majority for WC