Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]

[RadiantCowbells]

Eh that can be argued against.

Menalque's "town would have scumread Pmysterious" can't.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don’t think there’s anyway town!titus sees that post from PM and doesn’t call it out as scummy

Straight TMI read. Never a townpost.

[RadiantCowbells]

I do think it's weird how hard it's proving to lynch Titus

BTW I can spin that logic to nEE about how hard its to flip a scum-claimed slot who openwolfed d1

well, that's simple

Norwegian would be a hell of a lot easier to lynch tomorrow than Titus

like, if this is Titus!sucm, and I'm feeling pretty good that it is, then she's gonna be a fucking nightmare to do if she's not in the lynchpool most probably

if we're wrong on Titus/(PM, suji) Norway becomes a good option to lynch before lylo (assuming 3 scum this game)

Still a post that makes literally no sense.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like it's not just Titus spewing Menalque scum.
From Menalque side the associatives are equally awful.

And the way Menalque tries to argue he's locktown and everyone's just trying to dismantle the townblock whenever he gets questioned makes me want to vomit in his scum face.

[RadiantCowbells]

Kinda doubt that joey and Titus are the same alignment based on their interactions around the bottom of p2 into p3

And yeah this is hard SvS and I've caught scum off of less clear tokens of SvS than this loads of times.

[RadiantCowbells]

Nothing else I really want to get into. Leggo

[RadiantCowbells]

And just remember.

By Menalque's own words, I can be expected to read him correctly. He said this at a point where I was displaying uncertainty to the thread.

I'm telling you he is scum.

[Menalque]

And here’s the push I called

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean yea

Turns out that when the writings on the wall I'm gunning for you eventually. Not so hard to predict a player who consistently scumreads scum scumreading scum.

[Menalque]

I have two main questions to the rest of the thread before we proceed:

(1) how likely do you really think this is to be TvT or SvS? It’s gonna get bloodier before it’s over.

(2) if you think that it’s one or the other, who do you think is gonna be the easier lynch in LYLO?

If the answer to (2) is RC then sorry, you’re high. RC is an incredibly competent player both as town and as scum. My flip pretty much conf!scums him here if it happens that way, but the fact of the matter is that someone is still gonna have to lead the lynch D5 (maybe D4 if he’s feeling v ballsy this game) and i wanna know who’s gonna be the one to stand up and trade with him after I’m lynched, again, if it goes down that way.

[RadiantCowbells]

Menalque knows that if I'm not actually alive pushing him he won't get lynched. No one besides me is good enough in this lobby to scumread him. Don't get suckered in

[Menalque]

Now the other point is that RC is gonna be trying incredibly hard to sway you on this by any means that he possibly can. I encourage you to look at the play before he repped in, both from awoo and from me, and tell me who you think is more likely to be scum based on that.

I will answer any questions that you have about me or my progressions.

It was clear to most of you that I was obvtown before RC replaced in, and I’m hoping it still is now, despite his constant efforts that will undoubtedly continue to position himself as infallibly town here. You need to remember why that is and lynch RC here.

[Menalque]

Menalque knows that if I'm not actually alive pushing him he won't get lynched. No one besides me is good enough in this lobby to scumread him. Don't get suckered in

This is literally the opposite apart from it’s not that I don’t think anyone else here is good enough to SR RC but I doubt that anyone here necessarily has the willpower to go toe-to-toe with him tomorrow where he’s conf!scummed after my lynch and I’m worried that he’ll wriggle out of it somehow

[RadiantCowbells]

And the answer actually is RC is easier to lynch later for one simple reason
Burden of proficiency applies to me and not to Menalque.
I don't get these reads wrong. Menalque doesn't have good reads.

My flip says nothing about Menalque that my words don't already. Menalque flip says a lot about me in this circumstance.

[RadiantCowbells]

Okay getting to the computer.

[Menalque]

Why don’t we let people decide for themselves if this is TvT or SvS? Oh wait, you can’t let that happen, because it lock!scums you if you win.

[RadiantCowbells]

Why don’t we let people decide for themselves if this is TvT or SvS? Oh wait, you can’t let that happen, because it lock!scums you if you win.

Because it's not TvT nor SvS and you trying to hinge on that is you trying to find a way out of being lynched in 5 way if somehow this town is trashy enough to let me get lynched.

[Menalque]

RC is, as I’ve previously mentioned, not someone I’m able to outpost here. He’s better at AtE than me, he’s online more often so his volume of posts will be higher, and he’s verbose and wordy meaning he’s going to try to drown me/all of you in text and then when the thread is completely apathetic he’ll keep trying to force my lynch through by claiming you can BoP him off it tomorrow, whereas I guarantee that he starts fighting against that and claiming he did just honestly make a mistake and this is a style of play thing (aggressively pushing me) rather than AI

[RadiantCowbells]

Why does Menalque make that post as town? If he's scared that I'm not gonna get lynched he doesn't start going to other people to say this is TvT. That's play from scum who wants it to be seen as TvT.
I don't want this to be seen as TvT. I don't want you guys to just write off the fact that I'm a top tier scumhunter and do something flagrantly moronic like putting your reads above mine.

[Menalque]

Why don’t we let people decide for themselves if this is TvT or SvS? Oh wait, you can’t let that happen, because it lock!scums you if you win.

Because it's not TvT nor SvS and you trying to hinge on that is you trying to find a way out of being lynched in 5 way if somehow this town is trashy enough to let me get lynched.

I don’t think this town is trashy and I think that’s why there’s actually a chance that you get lynched here so long as I’m here to stop you from getting away with bullshit

[RadiantCowbells]

RC is, as I’ve previously mentioned, not someone I’m able to outpost here. He’s better at AtE than me, he’s online more often so his volume of posts will be higher, and he’s verbose and wordy meaning he’s going to try to drown me/all of you in text and then when the thread is completely apathetic he’ll keep trying to force my lynch through by claiming you can BoP him off it tomorrow, whereas I guarantee that he starts fighting against that and claiming he did just honestly make a mistake and this is a style of play thing (aggressively pushing me) rather than AI

Here's the thing:
In almost no scum games this year have I heavily posted in thread and in my last 4 scum games I barely posted at all in 3 of them.

I'm fucking done playing scum. Menalque is already aware of this if he has read Baton Pass. If he's talking in terms of me being able to significantly outpost him, it's because he knows that I'm town.

I don’t think this town is trashy and I think that’s why there’s actually a chance that you get lynched here so long as I’m here to stop you from getting away with bullshit

This town is objectively trashy considering they townread you and the fact that you're trying to ingratiate themselves with them by calling them not trashy is hilarious

[Menalque]

And just remember.

By Menalque's own words, I can be expected to read him correctly. He said this at a point where I was displaying uncertainty to the thread.

I'm telling you he is scum.

this is a misrep. I said that RC can be expected to read me correctly

as town

. If you believe this is really his towngame here, then yes, you should probably be lynching me. But again, if you have any doubts on that and you think that I’m the town here, you should be lynching RC for this scummy as fuck push

[RadiantCowbells]

this is a misrep. I said that RC can be expected to read me correctly as town. If you believe this is really his towngame here, then yes, you should probably be lynching me. But again, if you have any doubts on that and you think that I’m the town here, you should be lynching RC for this scummy as fuck push

Correct: so we are explicitly not TvT and yet he's trying to plant the seeds of positioning this as TvT by asking everyone else for their opinion even though he clearly should think it's TvS.

[RadiantCowbells]

Why don’t we let people decide for themselves if this is TvT or SvS? Oh wait, you can’t let that happen, because it lock!scums you if you win.

Like this is a

hard

scumclaim.

Why would town him who thinks that I'm scum going after him want to have everyone else decide that it's TvT?

Even more importantly, why would he even fucking BRING UP that it's SvS if he's town?

[Menalque]

Here’s the thing: RC is going to try and bully and dehumanise you/me into doing what he wants and getting what he wants.

If I make any points about how he’s doing this and try to avoid doing so, he’s going to call it me trying to ingratiate myself with you rather than me trying to work with people who I now have very good reason to believe are town.