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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:34 am
by FakeGod
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“What do you mean there is no more tea?!”


Alisae, Maki Harukawa, username, Moment, GuiltyLion, Something_Smart, Not Known 15, maxwell, Menalque, Hel, Iconeum, Radical Rat, Umlaut, and NorwegianboyEE, aligned with Town, wins the game!

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:35 am
by FakeGod
Dead PT - very short
Mafia PT
Port Authority's Office PT

Thanks for playing, everyone! The fact that I didn't have to replace anyone in the game really shows the sportsmanship everyone brought to the game. This setup has a sizable streak of AITP running through it, which may not be for everyone, although I love it personally. There are a few things I would change with the setup to expedite certain things but it basically ran as I had envisioned.

From an observer's view with perfect information, I
despaired
immediately as NK15 fakeclaimed PA and
let TD get wagonned early
. I don't
necessarily
think town fakeclaiming PA is a game-losing move, although it does require strong daughter reads from the fake-PA for it to work. In this case, coupled with the fact that real PA was in V/LA, you can see by VC 1.9 the
immense
pressure TD was put in.
Umlaut even sent me a PM asking me where the heck the PA was!!!
Do note that you can
mutiny
the PA, ignore everything he says, and still win as town, if you are able to
independently and accurately figure out the identity of the TD
. I'm surprised that Moment was the only person who tried anything of the sort. Anyway, Iconeum returned, and was forced to brutally retake his throne. He proceeded to force through the
game-winning double investigation
on the scum team on Day 1. (if
randomly
chosen, this investigation is in top
2.85%
of all possible 3-men investigations) Some of you guys were against this investigation for various reasons, but it's one of the biggest reasons for town's victory and I would like to applaud Iconeum once again. Antics that followed from the PA were basically all smokescreen from Iconeum, trying to divert attention from his TD. Titus played a strong Day 1 and overall superb scum game, and if even a single other scum team member mustered together a good enough position, I believe the "
Survive 5 executions
" Scum Win Condition would have been viable. Instead, we have kuribo taking apart the scum positions immediately and hunted notscience down. kuribo
does not mess around
and seen even from my last run game (Detective Penguin and City of Fogport), he gutted scum on day 1. Titus was forced to trade in her town cred on Day 3 to make a stand for her remaining teammate, but to no avail, partially due to the logical playerbase backbone of this game (GuiltyLion and co.) in this game being able to see that repeat investigation is obviously and very valuable, since they have been already confirmed as not TD. And to end the game, Titus did end up guessing Iconeum, completing the entirety of his well played smokescreen tactic.

It was a pleasure to watch you play the setup. I am again very impressed at the level of sportsmanship everyone showed, even if your enjoyment of the game was not as high as you liked.
I did commission the art above as a token of thanks to all of you.
Thanks for playing!

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:37 am
by Menalque
Yay!

What a great game, I really enjoyed this, so thank you everyone. Thank you for modding, FakeGod.

P.s. the art is excellent

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:38 am
by Umlaut
Thanks for saving my bacon, pa!

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:39 am
by maxwell
Umlaut was actually my early thought for TD although by endgame I really thought it might be a gambit by NK15. Very well played game by Iconeum.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:39 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2548, Titus wrote:Shoot Iconeum

I'll explain the logic of this guess later on.
LOL. Nice gambit Iconeum. Not confirming was smart.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:40 am
by Menalque
I guessed it was GL because of Icon having an early but never really questioned TR on him, but I honestly hadn’t thought about it that much.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:42 am
by Umlaut
I don't normally get tilted by things that happen in games but the state of day 1 as of (as FakeGod pointed out) was so stressful for me, thinking my play might singlehandedly lose us the game on Day 1, that I nearly replaced out from the pressure and I never really recovered my ability to play this game properly and just sort of phoned it in for the rest. Sorry I didn't contribute more but maybe you can understand how it happened.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:43 am
by maxwell
In post 1073, Iconeum wrote:I think 5 is too large of a pool

if you make it 4 i'd put datisi/maki/SS/ + either NK (if we don't exectue him - and with Tea found he's probably first to go anyway) or maybe someone like Moment/notscience in it if we execute NK
This was the post. Ico suddenly namedropped a bunch of popular D1 suspects and umlaut's name was nowhere to be found. That was about the moment I went "oh crap umlaut might be TD" and spent my time towncasing him on day 3. I guess I can take that away from the game even if I was kind of crappy otherwise.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:43 am
by Datisi
wait shit, it's umlaut?

gah, that day 1 was pretty damn bad, and as soon as i saw the night 1 invest pool, i more-or-less knew this was gonna go down to getting the daughter right. turning my position around on d2/d3 but still getting shoved into the investigation was painful, haha.

good game to town, damn you ico :P

many thanks for modding, fakegod.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:44 am
by Umlaut
The most "fun" part was my early scumread on notscience that people were
demanding I explain or else I was scum
and that I couldn't possibly explain because it stemmed from my knowing NK15 was fakeclaiming.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:47 am
by Umlaut
In post 1284, Menalque wrote:Yeah +1 I’m prodging until I get lynched or Icon big brain solves the game where no one wants to post because their opinions don’t matter
This post pretty funny in retrospect, given Icon did exactly that.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:47 am
by Menalque
I would very happily play with anyone here again and would actively encourage sign ups to this game from the rest of this PL :)

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=83795

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:48 am
by Datisi
me, in scumchat, circa 24 hours ago:
at this point i don't know if i'm confbiasing myself (and the actual answer is some dumb shit like umlaut or mena) or if we're living in the simplest universe...

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:48 am
by Menalque
In post 2561, Umlaut wrote:
In post 1284, Menalque wrote:Yeah +1 I’m prodging until I get lynched or Icon big brain solves the game where no one wants to post because their opinions don’t matter
This post pretty funny in retrospect, given Icon did exactly that.
I knew he had it in him, I was just incentivising him :P

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:49 am
by FakeGod
You guys had in Iconeum a
remarkable
captain who was willing to take charge, take risks, but also did so with a heavy heart.

It is said that those who least want the responsibilities of a leader position are often best suited for the job, and Iconeum pulled off a stunning performance.

I am sincerely hoping Iconeum would let me post his solo PT in the postgame to give you guys a glimpse of what happened inside the head of the lonely administrator who was determined find the smugglers but also keep the Tomboy Daughter safe at all costs.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:50 am
by Menalque
I might nom icon for moment of brilliance tbh

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:50 am
by Datisi
i was deadass thinking the same thing

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:51 am
by Menalque
Or maybe master strategist? Idk which category it falls under better

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:51 am
by Titus
Props do go to Iconeum here. It's VERY hard to play in a confirmed town game resting on your shoulders place. The fact he got two scum and doubled down on it is pretty damn good. He should be proud.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:56 am
by Datisi
also, no redactions in the scum pt from me.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:56 am
by Titus
I still think this setup needs a method to kill an outed PA to ensure this works more like mafia. It was fun none the less.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:56 am
by Titus
In post 2570, Datisi wrote:also, no redactions in the scum pt from me.
Same

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:19 pm
by kuribo
Thanks for the great game, you guys.

Alisae, I'm sorry I misread you and tbh if my head was in it more I may have come around.

Notscience, I did come to believe you didn't know I was username, but I had figured you out by then and I couldn't let mercy get in the way.

Ico, you were a star.

Titus, believe it or not you pinged my scum radar a couple times during the alisae wagon, but I put it out of my mind because I didn't want you to be scum. lol.

Datisi, being caught scum as well as essentially last scum standing is one of my guilty pleasures and I laughed out loud at your posts.

I know I dislike the meme style of play, but I like to think I came around a bit this game.

Umulat, you did a great job too.

Once I was mostly townread, I had hoped that Ico would continue to interact with me the way he had been: I couldn't tell him, but I was perfectly willing for the scum to think I was TD. And indeed, it must have worked since Titus had thought I was a suspect.

This was legit one of the most fun games I've played in a while. Boring ass mechanics talk notwithstanding.

I am beyond pleased with my lack of toxicity and doubly pleased considering I've felt super toxic in the past eight days.

I can't wait to play with you all again.

@FakeGod thank you, o smart serene, and never stop inviting me to games <3

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:32 pm
by Alisae
In post 2573, kuribo wrote:Alisae, I'm sorry I misread you and tbh if my head was in it more I may have come around.
Dude I’ve been there idc i wasn’t playing lol