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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:50 pm
by notscience
I’m going to guess that whoever their last buddy is will be the deep wolf.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:54 pm
by Cabd
I uh. Wasn't actually quite there yet. But I'm open to being sold.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:58 pm
by notscience
I don’t think unwnd replaces and goes this hard if both of his other team members picked up the 2020 guide on scum play

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:00 pm
by Cabd
For what it's worth I'm pretty sure this makes skitter Town and I'm hoping she comes back to play because there's no way that syr does that weird dance with a partner imo

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:00 pm
by unwnd
In post 2537, petapan wrote:
In post 2529, unwnd wrote:My read on Vax is not necessarily UTR. I think that Vax is not going to be pressured to do anything in this environment. He remains UTR because we've let him be, and as I explained before I find his words to be very self-aware but also condescending in a way. Like how he came in and told us to stop arguing and go somewhere or that he didn't get a chance to player or whatever. He's just going to keep doing that and I wanted to bring attention to it. Pooky is not necessarily associative of Vax but there were just some gut tells I got from his early content that never got solved, and put him down there because since that content he's only tapered off and not really done anything to get better. When it comes to Ffery being shaded towards green I explained it a bit earlier
i guess i understand on vax and do think he should be in the poe still but is not high priority for me

i think pooky has hit some of his towntells and that fluff and not being high content are null for him. a bit worried about him glomming on to prism and not really engaging me on if he thinks i
actually
play like this as scum but not majorly worried. track record of reading him is not great though so who knows.
I just feel like Prism gets sorted later regardless which is why I've decided to shelve him. My pooky read is more weaker than Vax and I hope it's not ignored on future days

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:02 pm
by fferyllt
I see "Rising" and think "Urge to burn".

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:02 pm
by notscience
I mean, that too.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:03 pm
by Elements
In post 2548, Cabd wrote:Notsci and I are insinuating that the scum team in this game is not planning long term.
In post 2547, notscience wrote:You are scum with unwnd.
would you mind explaining why im scum

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:03 pm
by skitter30
In post 2553, Cabd wrote:For what it's worth I'm pretty sure this makes skitter Town and I'm hoping she comes back to play because there's no way that syr does that weird dance with a partner imo
i'm vla on fridays and saturdays
i'm like around ig but i'm finding reading the past 25 pages or whatever it since i was here last to be fairly daunting, so if ur expecting my elucidating thoughts on it, it's prob not happening tonight

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:05 pm
by notscience
In post 2557, Elements wrote:
In post 2548, Cabd wrote:Notsci and I are insinuating that the scum team in this game is not planning long term.
In post 2547, notscience wrote:You are scum with unwnd.
would you mind explaining why im scum
PoE and you went from “these wagons are trash” to “I could vote unwnd” suspiciously fast

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:05 pm
by skitter30
In post 2547, notscience wrote:You are scum with unwnd.
no i'm fairly confident elements is town

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:06 pm
by notscience
Do you want to sell me on it or just tease it?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:08 pm
by petapan
In post 2553, Cabd wrote:For what it's worth I'm pretty sure this makes skitter Town and I'm hoping she comes back to play because there's no way that syr does that weird dance with a partner imo
she's v/la fridays and saturdays

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:08 pm
by petapan
oh lol

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:10 pm
by Elements
In post 2559, notscience wrote:you went from “these wagons are trash” to “I could vote unwnd” suspiciously fast
why is this scummy?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:11 pm
by Elements
In post 2564, Elements wrote:
In post 2559, notscience wrote:you went from “these wagons are trash” to “I could vote unwnd” suspiciously fast
why is this scummy?
is it a case of "last ditch effort to bus a partner"

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:12 pm
by notscience
Yes

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:13 pm
by notscience
Also I just don’t like the survivalism tbh along with the “oh I changed my playstyle bc I get miselim d1 a lot” is both AtE and a very common excuse scum use for playstyle differences

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:15 pm
by skitter30
the first three posts as a sequence i think are ridiculously ++++ town and do not come from scum:
they made a post that looks scummy, and were expecting people to jump on them for it, and acknowledged in an off-handed sort of way when someone else noted that post that they were expecting people to call them out on it
scum don't usually make posts that they think are bad in the first place, and they certainly don't sit there waiting for someone else to call them out on a bad post, and wonder why it didn't happen earlier like that

i also think that they seem super self-aware of what their scumrange is, and that they aren't in it, and that they're being called out as scummy for things they wouldn't do as scum .... i imagine if they were that self-aware they would put a bit more effort into doing something abt it, besides offering meta commentary that everyone here is wrong once in a while
Spoiler:
In post 778, Elements wrote:
In post 767, Cabd wrote:
In post 624, Elements wrote:
In post 616, Cabd wrote:Fuck it.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: ffery
ew
VOTE: Cabd
This is the murkiest post in the quicksand rapids I created btw.
I'm surprised it took so long for someone to point that out tbh
In post 785, Elements wrote:that it was a bad vote
In post 793, Elements wrote:
In post 787, skitter30 wrote:ok y did u make a bad vote
It was a pressure vote. Voted had moved in that direction so I added mine.
I wasn't very helpful and didn't tell me anything
In post 1989, Elements wrote:I haven't thought about it
In post 2533, Elements wrote:
In post 2531, notscience wrote:Then you need to be trying to convince people not to vote them.
I am not capable of doing this

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:15 pm
by skitter30
In post 2562, petapan wrote:
In post 2553, Cabd wrote:For what it's worth I'm pretty sure this makes skitter Town and I'm hoping she comes back to play because there's no way that syr does that weird dance with a partner imo
she's v/la fridays and saturdays
indeed :)

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:16 pm
by Cabd
Whereas town makes this post instead? <3

In post 310, Cabd wrote:I feel like I should address the elephant-sized missing data point in the room and point out that prior to signing up for this game, I spoke at length with a few folks about how I have a desire to play more "conventionally" in normals/newbies and keep my chaotic self constrained to themes.

The whiplash you're feeling is probably trying to place that and weight is vs. "Is this just scum cabd trying to look for a way to excuse treading new ground instead of his 2020 town game he knows he cannot keep up with" but obviously, you have to answer that for yourself.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:18 pm
by unwnd
I don't think people are just immutable machines that process Mafia like a spreadsheet. People do things that others will deem uncharacteristic, unnatural, what have you. I don't know why you keep presenting AtE as your main argument given that you are producing an emotion by the very means of attacking someone with it called aggression. AtE applies when the intent of using that emotion is to cover up for actions or make convenient excuses, but other than that, it's impossible to remove human emotive traits. Even now I speak with some regard of emotion because you can use emotions to drive your points further. I speak in this way because I want to emphasize something to you and that's what makes Mafia so interesting in the first place, because it's not simply guess-and-check and there are a ton of variables to account for.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:21 pm
by borkjerfkin
Can we walk this whole fucking thing back and get back to why unwnd is scum other than "syr seemed demoralized after the shitposting phase stopped" because I still feel like that's what all this shit boils down to and I am utterly uninclined to move there

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:23 pm
by Elements
In post 2572, borkjerfkin wrote:Can we walk this whole fucking thing back and get back to why unwnd is scum other than "syr seemed demoralized after the shitposting phase stopped" because I still feel like that's what all this shit boils down to and I am utterly uninclined to move there
wait, this is why people started voting syr/unwnd?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:24 pm
by borkjerfkin
I'll let cabd/noddy verify that i am being on the level w/ that comment