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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:05 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 2544, Bell wrote:I just made a case on flea.
The omgus thing?

Have you played with scum-Flea before?

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:06 pm
by Artemiana
In post 2543, Thestatusquo wrote:There is one day left and I want an elimination, what do you suggest I do? I'm not going to no elim. I couldn't get anyone to agree with me on StD. Everyone off the sigmund wagon seems dead set against it and Ircher hasn't gotten traction for days.
I would compromise on NDmath before I compromise of faer

I feel like you're probably paranoid and imagining things because I dont aee the same thing regarding Sigmund that you do

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:07 pm
by Thestatusquo
I agree with a lot of the few things NDMath has said. I like it worse than all 4 of the current options.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:08 pm
by Bell
In post 2550, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2544, Bell wrote:I just made a case on flea.
The omgus thing?

Have you played with scum-Flea before?
Once as a scum buddy.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:08 pm
by Chara
In post 2548, Bell wrote:Every game I've played with town Flea a major component of the experience was their OMGUS. They're taking suspicion too well and not being defensive or making passive aggressive snipes about why everyone is wrong.
i modded a towngame with Flea where fae didn't behave like that at all. binding of isaac mafia.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:08 pm
by Chara
In post 2549, Thestatusquo wrote:chara please give me something to sheep. I think we're going to no elim. :/
we aren't. worst case we compromise on something not ideal. but let me see.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:09 pm
by Thestatusquo
In post 2551, Artemiana wrote:
In post 2543, Thestatusquo wrote:There is one day left and I want an elimination, what do you suggest I do? I'm not going to no elim. I couldn't get anyone to agree with me on StD. Everyone off the sigmund wagon seems dead set against it and Ircher hasn't gotten traction for days.
I would compromise on NDmath before I compromise of faer

I feel like you're probably paranoid and imagining things because I dont aee the same thing regarding Sigmund that you do
Do you town read flea and if so why? Help me out here. My thing with flea is I literally always scum read. I have in every game I've ever played with faer. So I've kind of just thrown my hands up and when other people think flea is scum I follow and when they don't I don't.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:10 pm
by Chara
In post 2535, NDMath wrote:Scumread, townlean, eh, eh,
Eh translating to I'm not sure what to make of their posts. Reads on ircher seem to depend based off of people's interpretation of ircher's posting style. Am not finding much reasoning for the flea wagon.
my read on Ircher has zero to do with his posting style. would you mind rereading my posts on Ircher and seeing what you think again?

curious about your STD townlean in a general sense.

if you're not voting Sigmund already i'd say that's an ok vote.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:11 pm
by Chara
uhhhh, Bingle voted Ircher. where is Bingle? Bingle come in here and get the wagons going in the right direction, this ain't my job lmao.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:13 pm
by Thestatusquo
Can you point me to any other of your points about ircher besides the one about the "you'll look stupid when I flip" one?

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:13 pm
by MURDERCAT
In post 2488, morph the cat wrote:Not too confused with murder cat who is underwhelmingly this game but apparently that's just how I'm going to have to live with day one's from him
correct

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:15 pm
by MURDERCAT
VOTE: Sigmund

Perfectly happy with this

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:16 pm
by Bell
In post 2554, Chara wrote:
In post 2548, Bell wrote:Every game I've played with town Flea a major component of the experience was their OMGUS. They're taking suspicion too well and not being defensive or making passive aggressive snipes about why everyone is wrong.
i modded a towngame with Flea where fae didn't behave like that at all. binding of isaac mafia.
"See there's a stupidly weird thing about me that people who know me become aware of...

I'm a LHF player, my reads are never the best and my WIM goes all over the place.

People pull this kinda stuff on me all the time as an escape ;)

My contributions have definitely been a bit off at the moment, and I'm not doing the usual level of shenanigans and chaos I normally do.

VOTE: Farkan

(With pronouns, Don't worry about it too much. Ss long as they're neutral you're good :))"

I quick iso'd them in that game just now. I feel the focus is where I would expect it to be. Can't you feel the condescension? It's not a mean response but the point is there.
I mean, I could be wrong. Obviously. But if nobody is going to blow my mind with a case or something I'm just going to go with my reads.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:17 pm
by Thestatusquo
It is my turn to sheep VOTE: sigmund

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:20 pm
by Artemiana
In post 2556, Thestatusquo wrote:Do you town read flea and if so why? Help me out here. My thing with flea is I literally always scum read. I have in every game I've ever played with faer. So I've kind of just thrown my hands up and when other people think flea is scum I follow and when they don't I don't.
Flea is more like a town-lean. They aren't as playful or flamboyant as faer is and I think faer puts more effort into those marks because they are a huge hallmark in a town faer game. Simularly, i think faer would put more effort inti defending faes self.

Faer would at least pretend faer is interacting with faer catch ups, and responding to what faer thinks is needed to respond to.

As far as the omgus goes, I've never gotten that impression in the last few games I played with them but I recall that they have been more accepting of being wagoned to the point that faer would even accept it as an inevitable thing

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:20 pm
by Artemiana
VOTE: Sigmund

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:21 pm
by Artemiana
Bell, what are your thoughts on sigmund? Why would you wagon faer over him?

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:22 pm
by Bell
I wanna be clear that what I just quoted was from flea and it was an (accurate) omgus vote on Farkran, so.
I don't get Chara's point minus maybe Flea's vibe was different that game.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:23 pm
by Chara
In post 2559, Thestatusquo wrote:Can you point me to any other of your points about ircher besides the one about the "you'll look stupid when I flip" one?
his posts have the flavor of putting out content for content's sake, the commentary is all fine but the only direction to his game appears to be arguing against townreads others have, see: Toog TRs, and a lot of his expressed opinions are surface-level commentary. it's just an incredibly dry ISO, it really feels like he's posting because he has to and not because he has something to contribute every time he shows up in the thread.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:25 pm
by Bell
In post 2566, Artemiana wrote:Bell, what are your thoughts on sigmund? Why would you wagon faer over him?
I have been pulled in that direction only by guillotina's enthusiasm for it. Otherwise, Sigmund isn't really making any friends. It's not very survivalist in intention. So I lean against his wagon and favor Flea's because I can at least identify something that could be an alignment differential.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:27 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 2569, Bell wrote:Sigmund isn't really making any friends.
I'm gonna venture a guess that this is a personality thing and not an alignment thing.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:29 pm
by Chara
In post 2567, Bell wrote:I wanna be clear that what I just quoted was from flea and it was an (accurate) omgus vote on Farkran, so.
I don't get Chara's point minus maybe Flea's vibe was different that game.
i don't agree that Flea's vote on Farkran that game was particularly snippy or condescending. it's an omgus vote, yes, but that post and the rest of faer posting doesn't seem to have that quality you're describing, and i have to agree that fae does seem more accepting of faer position as oft-lhf.

i'm on the whole less willing to accept reads like "X player
always
does Y as town" when i don't have firsthand experience with the phenomenon because people tend to change, so if you want to convince me Flea is scum it'll have to be with faer play in this game only.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:29 pm
by Bell
In post 2570, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2569, Bell wrote:Sigmund isn't really making any friends.
I'm gonna venture a guess that this is a personality thing and not an alignment thing.
Do you really think his attitude is his personality and not just a performance?

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:30 pm
by Bell
In post 2571, Chara wrote:
In post 2567, Bell wrote:I wanna be clear that what I just quoted was from flea and it was an (accurate) omgus vote on Farkran, so.
I don't get Chara's point minus maybe Flea's vibe was different that game.
i don't agree that Flea's vote on Farkran that game was particularly snippy or condescending. it's an omgus vote, yes, but that post and the rest of faer posting doesn't seem to have that quality you're describing, and i have to agree that fae does seem more accepting of faer position as oft-lhf.

i'm on the whole less willing to accept reads like "X player
always
does Y as town" when i don't have firsthand experience with the phenomenon because people tend to change, so if you want to convince me Flea is scum it'll have to be with faer play in this game only.
I'm not really trying to convince you that Fae is scum tho. You're too low in my town reads for me to be interested in getting your vote.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:30 pm
by Chara
In post 2569, Bell wrote:
In post 2566, Artemiana wrote:Bell, what are your thoughts on sigmund? Why would you wagon faer over him?
I have been pulled in that direction only by guillotina's enthusiasm for it. Otherwise, Sigmund isn't really making any friends. It's not very survivalist in intention. So I lean against his wagon and favor Flea's because I can at least identify something that could be an alignment differential.
i like this post, though.

i'm undecided on Sigmund because i agree he's not doing himself any favours and makes himself really easy to dislike, but it's also possible that scum Sigmund has just made an error in the persona he's taken on for this game, because the egotistical read is certainly accurate.