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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:08 am
by mc esther
wh, what?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:08 am
by mc esther
no but that's a fair request i'll read it now
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:09 am
by Dwlee99
Imagine thinking I'm scum omegalol
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:09 am
by Enchant
RH9 is person i fine with killing (it's actually not telling, i have half of game in this list for now).
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:14 am
by Voyc
I'm not saying you're scum, you're pretty null to me
But if people are going to stop voting on RH9/Mocha that have been the leading wagons for scummy reasons to go for coasting reasons
Yeah I'd rather go for you
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:21 am
by Dwlee99
keep my name out of u r mouth
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:28 am
by mc esther
voyc, do you still think firebringer's scum?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:31 am
by Voyc
I dont think Ive ever said I thought he was scum?
I think he's pretty townie for what it's worth but I dont discard that what makes me think so I think he could do as scum
But Im ok w him! Dont want to vote him
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:33 am
by mc esther
you scumread toogeloo is why i asked
i cant stop thinking about how embarrassing this will be if voyc flips town and rh9 is scum...
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:37 am
by Voyc
oh
I forgot about Toog tbh
:l
I feel a bit bad about forgetting now
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:39 am
by mc esther
keeping track of replacements is impossible lmao i keep needing to check the playerlist
i really do need to go to bed now, i'll reconsider my vote in the morning
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:55 am
by numberQ
The voyc wagon is surprising, she has a low post count but I wouldn't call her ISO "coasting". There was some effort there, certainly more than players like Alyssa. Will flipping Voyc help us figure out someone else? I still like the RH9 wagon more, if only because VCA alone will tell us more about the reset of the game state imo.
In post 2544, Enchant wrote:I droped fear of jester long ago.
Only motivation to not kill Jester is +1 elim on mafia needed.
I think chaos and havok created by simple existence of jest already cost us far more.
We can't just let idiots to let fool us with jestering unpunished.
I don't always agree with Enchant's takes. But this one, I'm starting to believe.
Though I had a thought literally as I was about to hit submit, is this just jester trying to convince us to lim him despite jester telling?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:12 am
by Enchant
In post 2561, numberQ wrote:The voyc wagon is surprising, she has a low post count but I wouldn't call her ISO "coasting". There was some effort there, certainly more than players like Alyssa. Will flipping Voyc help us figure out someone else? I still like the RH9 wagon more, if only because VCA alone will tell us more about the reset of the game state imo.
In post 2544, Enchant wrote:I droped fear of jester long ago.
Only motivation to not kill Jester is +1 elim on mafia needed.
I think chaos and havok created by simple existence of jest already cost us far more.
We can't just let idiots to let fool us with jestering unpunished.
I don't always agree with Enchant's takes. But this one, I'm starting to believe.
Though I had a thought literally as I was about to hit submit, is this just jester trying to convince us to lim him despite jester telling?
Let's assume i am Jester for example.
Do you think i will be NKed?
How it will influence gamestate if i am elimmed?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:17 am
by Milk & Mocha
Imagine trying to sort alignment based on "effort"
this is some 1960s Stasi shit going on right here
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:15 am
by numberQ
In post 2562, Enchant wrote:[snip]
Let's assume i am Jester for example.
Do you think i will be NKed?
How it will influence gamestate if i am elimmed?
NK speculation before it happens seems like a bad idea to me. What is gained by me answering that first question?
The second question, you being jester and then flipping will tell us a lot about all the people faking their jester tells. Whether it means they're scum or not is on a case by case basis. Though that's true of any jester flip.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:24 am
by Enchant
Exactly.
We achieved such state where if jester claims, i help him win, just to end these paranoid games.
If you think i persuading you to elim me, you fucking wrong, i advocate for elimming jester-tellers because jester will not jester tell, he will try to pass as mafia who trying to pass as town but fails. I am blatant not-jester, you believing i am one is hilarious.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:24 am
by Dwlee99
I think enchant is town here
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:41 am
by numberQ
I see what you're saying Enchant. Though you're acting like it's incredibly obvious that the jester won't jester tell, and if that's true then would anyone be trying to jester tell at all? I struggle to see a reason to do that besides A) trying to make no one want to kill you, B) throwing up a smokescreen so the real jester might get NKed, or C) just trolling. Besides C, all of those goals would require the person jester telling to think that jester telling has a realistic chance of making them seem like the jester. So ultimately I don't think this is an obvious line of logic, but I do think it's an insightful one.
If there's a believable jester hardclaim, I think there's merit in voting them out.
For now though I'll do this. I like M&M for the lim more than Voyc, and RH9 wagon has dropped off.
VOTE: M&M
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:46 am
by Milk & Mocha
wait why would the jester not jester tell?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:48 am
by Enchant
I don't care about Jester.
You should't as well.
That's my main point.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:21 am
by RH9
@Kerset VC
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:53 am
by RH9
In post 2544, Enchant wrote:I droped fear of jester long ago.
Only motivation to not kill Jester is +1 elim on mafia needed.
I think chaos and havok created by simple existence of jest already cost us far more.
We can't just let idiots to let fool us with jestering unpunished.
Seems like a good point. It might help boost motivation.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:21 am
by mc esther
dwlee99, why not rh9?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:24 am
by mc esther
regardless, i think every other non-rh9 player who's posted so far has given explicit support for the rh9 wagon, perhaps consensus is not so hard lmao
UNVOTE:
VOTE: rh9
if three decides mocha isnt jester, very happy to wagon there too, but for now i strongly agree that we should just stump the jester.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:40 pm
by RH9
In post 2573, mc esther wrote:regardless, i think every other non-rh9 player who's posted so far has given explicit support for the rh9 wagon, perhaps consensus is not so hard lmao
UNVOTE:
VOTE: rh9
if three decides mocha isnt jester, very happy to wagon there too, but for now i strongly agree that we should just stump the jester.
Ok. Sure. I agree with the last sentence.