MagnaofIllusion wrote:CSL’s Tour de Force ISO –
Exhibit 1
– Lack of scum-hunting. Seriously, read his ISO. If you can find any semblance of a case made please bring it to my attention. In general his ISO is mostly contained with a series of one to two line posts.
In ISO 1 he throws together a ‘case’ on Kleedrac and ends with this gem –
CSL wrote:Conclusion: Distancing and OMGUS votes are scum strategies that this guy didn't close up all the way. This guy is scum. CASE CLOSED. Why the hell isn't he lynched yet?
1. The word distancing doesn’t appear anywhere in the ISO before this. How was Kleedrac distancing when we have no scum flips and he mentions not one of his other ISO 0 scum-reads in ISO 1?
2. OMGUS isn’t a scum-tell.
3. Not the rhetoric at the end? Sound familiar? Yet somehow that slot flipped Town.
1. If that was my ISO 1, and my first post of content, then the first statement is null.
2. Your point?
3. Doesn't everyone make mistakes
ISO 12 – Votes Kleedrac even after his slot died Night 1. Shows a lazy approach to scum-hunting that is likely coming from scum.
Or, forgot that Budja replaced him, and Budja died.
ISO 19 – Called Benmage lurker-scum, and immediately retracted in ISO 20. More lazy scum-hunting.
He kept saying he'l catch up. Then noticed he posted far more than I realized. Null
CSL ISO 42 wrote:About the guilty claim on Percy: Didn't read the thread.
Kinda hard to actually scum-hunt when you don’t even read the thread.
Kinda hard to ISO when you're trying to get town lynched.
After 42 I challenge you to find a post that shows accusations against a player that isn’t a simple 1 or 2 line post with no support.
Exhibit 2
– Greyjoy interactions.
ISO 0 – Throws down a Town / Scum list on replace in that throws the Raivann slot as scum yet votes for Kleedrac.
Not an interaction. I had Kleedrac as more scum than Raivann. Stop twisting words.
Later in ISO 7, despite not having CMAR in his Town / Scum list from ISO 0 and only mentioning CMAR in his Kleedrac case he has a ‘bigger’ scum-read from CMAR and states Raivann ‘can wait’. This is before Raivann claimed.
No evidence to support that logic. Try again.
After Raivann’s claim we get the following –
CSL ISO 9 wrote:Raivann's claim is not safe to assume to be clear. We should keep a close eye on him during this game.
As it was said before, if CMAR flips scum, Raivann is obvscum
1. Reads as distancing from Raivann now that the claim has saved him.
2. Note the attempt to link CMAR scum to Raivann scum. Preparing to say Raivann might not be scum when CMAR eventually flips Town?
1. I never cleared him as town. Nice misrep.
2. I did not say that. Misrep noted.
Nary any significant appearances by either Percy or Muki to be found.
Exhibit 3
– Catch-all other weirdness
An undercurrent of buddying in general – Read the ISO and look at the way he defers to veteran players like Drip and Mina.
What I usually do. Null.
ISO 25 – Claims at approximately L-9 a Vanilla role.
Invalid. Not a scumtell.
CSL ISO 65 wrote:UNVOTE: SSBF
VOTE: Axelrod
Anxiety killed the Day.
Let’s not forget this gem – CSL hammers the Town Doctor without even asking for a claim. After seeing Muki flip watcher and tying in some statements Muki made alluding to seeing multiple people on Locke it makes sense why CSL-Greyjoy would want to hammer without giving Axel a chance to claim.
Misrep noted. Never knew he was at L-1. Don't ask me why I said that anxiety part. No idea where that came from.
CSL ISO 71 wrote:Wow. I actually thought you were going to lynch me for accidently hammering the doctor.
Times have changed.
Open acknowledgment that his move was scummy and he is shocked to not be lynched. Not a Town perspective.
It sure ain't a scum perspective.
CSL ISO 99 wrote:Mac's claim is believable. This, I go back to who I think was scum in the first place.
Note the inconsistency here. Mac’s claim is believable until Unsight is lynched and suddenly at the dawning of the next day he immediately votes Mac with nary a word why he reversed his thinking.
Unsight's final words. Read them. Misrep.
Then we have this series of posts regarding myself –
CSL ISO 117 wrote:Magna is scum?
CSL ISO 118 wrote:I was going to lynch MoI in lylo anyways.
These both come from Today before Mac explained to CSL that if he was Town I had to be scum via PoE. Do they sound like someone 'sure' I am scum? Why would CSL-Town want to wait for LYLO for my lynch if I am scum? Yet after Mac points out the obvious logic to CSL suddenly I’m obvscum. The inconsistency is glaring.
Misrep DULY noted. Try again. If Mina was still alive, you'd likely be lynched, thus, you killed her.
And now CSL has spiralled into a wave of Appealing to Fear (lynch me and we lose) and rhetoric. Still no visible signs of scum-hunting from him.
This is usual. Null.
In summary I think this pretty clearly spells out why I’m going to
Confirm
VOTE: CSL