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In post 2573, Wisdom wrote:Nero is a fine lynch too

In post 2572, pinturicchio wrote:

In post 2568, Wisdom wrote:there are definitely some bussing scum in there as well
bef/alchemist/hebi strike me as that the most looking at the wagon

And hebi/Nero makes sense too.
Change BEF for profii and we have a deal.

In post 2564, Wisdom wrote:

In post 2553, DrewVa wrote:P.edit. Both Clem’s self-hammer to presumably prevent Toogeloo from hammering, plus Chick’s townread of Toogeloo are pretty damning, when combined together.


VOTE: Toogeloo

Why is the former scum indicative for toogeloo

If anything it looks like clem self hammered so as to not let toog confirm their role

In post 2394, ruru wrote:

votecount

With 26 alive it takes 14 to lynch.

Clemency (12):

Fortian (830),

pinturicchio (1599),

RCEnigma (1601),

Wisdom (1650),

davesaz (1658),

BrightEyedFish (1731),

Alchemist21 (1750),

Tails (1913),

BuJaber (2022),

Alonzo (2242),

profii (2288),

DrewVa (2381),

BuJaber (4):

DrippingGoofball (609),

Thor665 (1438),

Varsoon (1452),

Nero Cain (2147),

Flavor Leaf (2):

Malakitty (1178),

Creature (1921),

Tails (2):

CheekyTeeky (2070),

hebichan (2122),

profii (1):

Reasonably Rational (893),

Creature (1):

Flavor Leaf (2030),

DrippingGoofball (1):

Gamma Emerald (2195),

Not voting (3):

Toogeloo,

Clemency (1442),

Amzela (1827),

(expired on 2018-12-04 02:30:00) remain.

Spoiler: mobile-friendlier

Clemency (12):

Fortian (830), pinturicchio (1599), RCEnigma (1601), Wisdom (1650), davesaz (1658), BrightEyedFish (1731), Alchemist21 (1750), Tails (1913), BuJaber (2022), Alonzo (2242), profii (2288), DrewVa (2381),

BuJaber (4):

DrippingGoofball (609), Thor665 (1438), Varsoon (1452), Nero Cain (2147),

Flavor Leaf (2):

Malakitty (1178), Creature (1921),

Tails (2):

CheekyTeeky (2070), hebichan (2122),

profii (1):

Reasonably Rational (893),

Creature (1):

Flavor Leaf (2030),

DrippingGoofball (1):

Gamma Emerald (2195),

Not voting (3):

Toogeloo, Clemency (1442), Amzela (1827),

In post 2566, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: gamma

I recall him not voting clem so he can go

In post 2555, pinturicchio wrote:Why would a scum self hammer to prevent his partner from hammering. That makes no sense

In post 2578, hebichan wrote:If you guys are set in your hearts on lynching me, with a d1 scum lynch and not night deaths, I'm not gonna stop you.

Till then. VOTE: Nero

The thing about toog is

he could be an actual treestump and lying about the hammering thing.

In post 2562, pinturicchio wrote:

In post 2561, DrewVa wrote:

In post 2555, pinturicchio wrote:Why would a scum self hammer to prevent his partner from hammering. That makes no sense

If Toogeloo’s role is fake. Normally, you’d be absolutely right about that. But don’t you think there’s some weird associatives with Clem’s self-hammering - to according to him, prevent Toogeloo from hammering and Chick’s Toogeloo defense? Either one alone, wouldn’t have made me think that. Do you think Clem just wanted to die anyway and tried to shade Toogeloo? I suppose that is also possible.

If his claim was fake, letting him hammer would make much more sense than not letting him hammer. Unless Toog's role was "if you hammer one of your partners you die", which makes NO sense at all. Also, I don't think Chick's post was a defense, since there was a lot of consensus on Toog being town. I see that post much more like a "look at me I'm doing something", contributing nothing new to the game, than a defense.

In post 2581, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 2555, pinturicchio wrote:Why would a scum self hammer to prevent his partner from hammering. That makes no sense

Because it makes you ask that question. There is now the appearance that scum was concerned about Toog's role claim. Others already inferred it might be a hammer powered role of some kind instead of specifically (or only) what Toog claimed.

Then there's Chick's post that Cerb quoted which is all kinds of bad. It's one of two things:

1.) An intentional red herring from Chickadee

OR

2.) Failed WiFoM by Chickadee

Raw probabilities vastly favor #2.

Since we've already gotten one person literally chainsawing Toog and attacking the idea that Chick accidentally linked to a partner (despite my intentional withholding of our reasoning for now) ... I think I'll see how much more hole gets dug.

Suffice it to say that I'm pretty sure Toog is scum here. The reasoning is sound. Nancy picked up on it and just needs to be more confident.

~D

In post 2562, pinturicchio wrote:

In post 2561, DrewVa wrote:

In post 2555, pinturicchio wrote:Why would a scum self hammer to prevent his partner from hammering. That makes no sense

If Toogeloo’s role is fake. Normally, you’d be absolutely right about that. But don’t you think there’s some weird associatives with Clem’s self-hammering - to according to him, prevent Toogeloo from hammering and Chick’s Toogeloo defense? Either one alone, wouldn’t have made me think that. Do you think Clem just wanted to die anyway and tried to shade Toogeloo? I suppose that is also possible.

If his claim was fake, letting him hammer would make much more sense than not letting him hammer. Unless Toog's role was "if you hammer one of your partners you die", which makes NO sense at all. Also, I don't think Chick's post was a defense, since there was a lot of consensus on Toog being town. I see that post much more like a "look at me I'm doing something", contributing nothing new to the game, than a defense.

In post 2583, DrewVa wrote:

Spoiler:

In post 1238, Chickadee wrote:

In post 1205, Fortian wrote:Chick, when you’re able, what is your read on Toog and why?

I'm town reading Toog. I think the way they initially claimed was genuine. I think it came from a place of wanting to be upfront about they wouldn't be voting. There hasn't been a lot of redeeming posts since then, but I understand the frustration.

I also don't hold it against anyone to find their "oh it exists" post scummy though.

In post 1203, Chickadee wrote:

In post 1177, RCEnigma wrote:So Chickadee, I see you're voting creature for lack of presence. Why his lack of presence specifically? And not say, Drip, or majiffy, or thor.

P.edit:

Or Mala who I forgot was in this game.

Because I find sorting Creature easy, and sorting Creature has always largely been dependent on activity.

I'm not familiar with DGB, so I'm giving that slot time to see what other people come up with, and what that slot does.
I'll sort Majiffy before days end. Of that I'm sure. I've never sorted Majiffy incorrectly.
I've played a few games with Thor, but don't feel confident in reading him atm.

So with Creature I go.

In post 1187, Fortian wrote:

In post 1185, Malakitty wrote:

In post 401, Toogeloo wrote:Holy shit, it's a real role...
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Actor

.......

Ugh toog that just ruined my TR on you

:\

Oh?

This seems an odd reason to lose a TR

I disagree. I think it's a perfectly acceptable reason to lose a town read. It's an odd post.

In post 1189, Varsoon wrote:Yeah I'm on antibiotics right now and my cough has gotten much much better
<3

Good!

I'm probably only a few days behind you...

D:

In post 1439, Chickadee wrote:

In post 1437, Fortian wrote:

In post 1238, Chickadee wrote:

In post 1205, Fortian wrote:Chick, when you’re able, what is your read on Toog and why?

I'm town reading Toog. I think the way they initially claimed was genuine. I think it came from a place of wanting to be upfront about they wouldn't be voting. There hasn't been a lot of redeeming posts since then, but I understand the frustration.

I also don't hold it against anyone to find their "oh it exists" post scummy though.

What is it about the post that you think makes that post more likely to come from scum?

Right now i'm very worried that your initial post about it was a vague attempt at sounding useful without actually coming from a genuine place. Especially given that I think your explanations since don't really make sense of why you'd jump in to defend Mala like that.

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Also I seriously don't get all the hysteria surrounding Creature's posting. That was all more anti-town than Creature's posting was imo.

-DV

All I meant was that I don't scum read Mala for the conclusion she made.

Wow, this is really strange. How did I miss this? Chick did a complete 180 on her Toogeloo read to defend Mala. And then she does it again after Mala complains about Creature.

In post 2588, DrewVa wrote:Alchemist21 -- Still think he's way too funny to be town here, as town in Dolphins he was Mr. Serious Alchemist

In post 2588, DrewVa wrote:davesaz -- Seems really passive so far

In post 1335, Creature wrote:Self-reminder Gamma is town

In post 2537, DrewVa wrote:Eh, the Lightening Rod role in Overkill 1, kind of fucked scum. I seriously doubt A50 tries it again in this game. So, some other reason or could be protectives, that would make the most sense.

In post 1922, Toogeloo wrote:I'm feeling a lot of deja vu from the first game.

In post 782, Gamma Emerald wrote:The rule about up to X anti town of any faction being able to die
It’s possible that may be misleading wording
It’s something I’d think to do

In post 794, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 783, Wisdom wrote:I dont get multiball from that
Why cant it apply to singleball

Of any faction
It implies there isn’t just one

In post 779, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 777, Wisdom wrote:gamma talk to us
any reads?

Meh probably not beyond what I’ve described
Given this is multiball barring A50 making a red herring, I’m favoring scumhunting over townhunting rn