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In post 2073, Lady Eventide wrote:Gamma is bigger fish to fry, IMO. They've been persistently townreading me even as I've been sinking deeper, with their read apparently moving in the opposite direction from everyone else's.

Not true
I just vanished before I could explain that my read had changed

In post 2573, Dannflor wrote:

In post 2570, Tana and Ephraim wrote:i think that we should force dannflor to claim since he's a deepwolf

i claim deepwolf

In post 2084, Tana and Ephraim wrote:btw HH was my pocket scumbuddy read but I've been holding off on it so far.

Btw what happened to HH 100% scum

I forgot to put Titus in my town category

In post 2563, popsofctown wrote:

I'm still voting Lady Eventide right now. The claim is creative but not unfakeable and I'm a little skeptical it would be designed the way it is, with this game GiF had the ability to write the "switch to miller voyeur" as a 1-shot day ability so that it wouldn't cost an entire transform gauge and night for something that's a lateral move.
I still think she's >rand to flip red, and now she's also a claimed slot so lynching her exposes less of the setup.

I think it's odd you're scumreading half the playerlist, I felt like I was townread too many players a while back. But with the way Gamma has been acting that's changing some.
Mafia is hard.
Gameplay town is probably what I'm curious about, so if you're not already there I guess I could talk to you about that, Celica.

It's not switch. It goes from follower -> follower with extra partial voyeur on their target, but also a miller. There actually a power boost here.

@Dannflor:
Despite everything... I think you're town. I think I woukd have seen more skittishness from someone who was actually scum; all your defenses have been solid, and my basis for the read's just disintegrated like so much dust.

You could still be scum - I'm not locking you town, not yet - but you feel town.

Reads right now:
Senshi: Obviously Town
Dannflor: Lawful Town
T&E: Asshole Town
Pops: Worst Townie Award 2019
Bitmap: Regrettably, Town
Gameplay: Kick-Me-Sign Town

Katsuki: Literally A Cat
Titus: Moonlogic Impatient
Happiness: Shiny Neutral
Cafe Stiles: Siesta Neutral

Chaos Wind: Unlogic Questionable
LLD: Lurking Questionable

Gamma: Town Scum
RCE: Moonlogic Scum
Dr Dolittle: It's Scum™!

Croag: Who?

When did we go over to Asshole town? Was it when my hydra partnered unvoted you to vote LLD?

In post 2581, Tana and Ephraim wrote:When did we go over to Asshole town? Was it when my hydra partnered unvoted you to vote LLD?

When I got my own temper back under control and had a chance to think about you. You were asshole town earlier yesterday, then you got under my skin and I scumread you for it, now I think you just play like this.

I dont consider neither Follower nor Voyeur strong roles, imagine using voyeur on the nk "this person was targeted by a killing action" "oh gee thanks captain obvious", the thing that gives me pause is "did she really not know what those roles are?"
-Tana

i consider voyeur even weaker than follower. It's useful in very edge case scenarios and a "you know only ONE of the actions done to your target" in exchange for millerizing, exiting your PT, and using up transformation guage on top of it all (which is what it happens?) seems like overkill for such a weak boost, and i agree with pops on that
-Tana

In post 2124, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1249, Lady Eventide wrote:

In post 1241, gameplay506 wrote:Content wise I barely like any of Lady E's posts. Especially the votes.
But the way she is overreacting and getting upset every time someone pressures/votes her gives me conflicting feelings
Idk what to get out of that
help

As for Chaos Wind he is meh.

Least content in the game rn so I don't really want a to lynch that.

I'm pretty sure you've literally forgotten Croag is in this game.

Honestly wouldn't mind croag votes

Retreading my steps at this point
Why am I the only person who's gotten flak for putting croag out there? Fyi I agree that this seems similar to Gay Dance, and I recall croag bring town in G&R2 and doing stuff. But I moreover want yo know why out of 3 people I'm the one who gets shit for suggesting this

Voyeur + Follower is like Tier 2/3.

In post 2583, Tana and Ephraim wrote:I dont consider neither Follower nor Voyeur strong roles, imagine using voyeur on the nk "this person was targeted by a killing action" "oh gee thanks captain obvious", the thing that gives me pause is "did she really not know what those roles are?"
-Tana

I know what Voyeur is. It's Follower that I've never played with before and have difficulty judging the value of. Wiki says it's a weaker rolecop, but rolecops can't catch the mafia kill, so... ???

And yeah, I agree, the ability is goddamn useless.

And follower is basically a weaker rolecop and it fails if the target decides to do nothing.
-Tana

In post 2153, Tana and Ephraim wrote:

I claim for

reasons

that I am 100% sure that HH is flipping scum. If you're not voting her in your next post, you're voting us.

No one else is going to be lynched from here on out so if you're voting elsewhere you're just wasting your time.

So this happened.

In post 2584, Tana and Ephraim wrote:i consider voyeur even weaker than follower. It's useful in very edge case scenarios and a "you know only ONE of the actions done to your target" in exchange for millerizing, exiting your PT, and using up transformation guage on top of it all (which is what it happens?) seems like overkill for such a weak boost, and i agree with pops on that
-Tana

Yeah. It's a blatant trap option and I don't understand why it exists.

Also RC we had a misunderstanding about whether I was pushing you and you jacket acknowledged my last post on that sequence

In post 2590, Lady Eventide wrote:

In post 2584, Tana and Ephraim wrote:i consider voyeur even weaker than follower. It's useful in very edge case scenarios and a "you know only ONE of the actions done to your target" in exchange for millerizing, exiting your PT, and using up transformation guage on top of it all (which is what it happens?) seems like overkill for such a weak boost, and i agree with pops on that
-Tana

Yeah. It's a blatant trap option and I don't understand why it exists.

This was bugging me, so I went back and looked at my role PM again. Examining the phrasing, it might give me full ability descriptions of the powers I voyeur/follow, rather than just a category like "killing", "protective", or whatever, which would be more useful... but that's it. The trap option remains an obvious trap option.

I think that if we do not lynch Lady Eventide the people townreading her will never reconsider that.

As in this isn't just a question of do we lynch LE today. she doesn't get lynched further down the line if she doesn't get lynched today.
all the people who have any real odds of being nightkilled are in the "she is scum" camp. if we don't lynch her today realistically we're consenting to her going to endgame.

i'm not consenting to her going to endgame. she's already claimed, and regardless of flip she has been so central to the game that it ought to be useful to determining who scum are

i'm not gonna make another shoshin mistake and leave that slot alive, sorry.

when's the soonest we can get a hammer on LE?

In post 2594, Tana and Ephraim wrote:As in this isn't just a question of do we lynch LE today. she doesn't get lynched further down the line if she doesn't get lynched today.
all the people who have any real odds of being nightkilled are in the "she is scum" camp. if we don't lynch her today realistically we're consenting to her going to endgame.

i'm not consenting to her going to endgame. she's already claimed, and regardless of flip she has been so central to the game that it ought to be useful to determining who scum are

Ok, give me some associations.

If she flips town, who'd you go after?
If she flips scum, who'd you go after?

gamma if scum
if she flips town i don't know right now

In post 2593, Tana and Ephraim wrote:I think that if we do not lynch Lady Eventide the people townreading her will never reconsider that.

I think that if you ML me today you'll lose basically whatver sliver of credibility you still have, and you won't be able to recalibrate and dig yourself out of that hole before you're ML'd.

In post 2594, Tana and Ephraim wrote:As in this isn't just a question of do we lynch LE today. she doesn't get lynched further down the line if she doesn't get lynched today.
all the people who have any real odds of being nightkilled are in the "she is scum" camp. if we don't lynch her today realistically we're consenting to her going to endgame.

i'm not consenting to her going to endgame. she's already claimed, and regardless of flip she has been so central to the game that it ought to be useful to determining who scum are

I will consent to being lynched D3 if I'm still alive, given that I'm a claimed investigative and I agree my slot probably shouldn't make it to endgame.