In post 2565, farside22 wrote:
Im sensing fear amoung scum here.
If everyone recalls spring had the idea that if scum even allowed the quiz to go through it confirms a town member now she is worried about being framed for it.
I think no one ahould or would instanta town read the group suggested.
Saying that is a fallacy.
This is a good point to keep in mind
Ahem what?
These two propositions are not contradictory?
They don't even connect logically?
If scum allow the quiz to go through, good that confirms one town member.
If scum fail the quiz, I refuse to be framed for that voting that team in.
> Do people see the problem I have with farside now?
Farside, you are the one not making sense.
How am I scummy for not wanting to vote scum into the QT?
How does that even connect with scum failing or passing the quiz?
The only thing you said was when I asked Starbuck on why she thought it'd be fun to have her as a leader.
I explained why I asked that already, to gauge who'd she think she'd surprise (whom I suppose are who she thinks are scum).
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:57 pm
by midwaybear
In post 2546, unwnd wrote:NDMath has 18 posts. I am definitely OK with him being at the bottom of the chain.
Yes sir
On another note, I really don't want beeboy to die. He's the guy keeping us together.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:03 pm
by midwaybear
In post 2551, unwnd wrote:I really do think it's proscum especially right now so
I don't like your reasoning even if you think they're scum.
Why is denying the proposed team proscum right now? After all, we still have a week and it's not the last possible proposal. And what does your second statement mean(bolded)?
In post 2567, Pink Ball wrote:I don't think ND is the ideal lynch today, even if he hasn't posted, I'd like to get more info of the gamestate for D3 and lynching the lurker is not he best alternative for that matter
Who do you want to lynch then? This is the exact reason why lurking works.
unwnd is town, but a lot of the things he says don't make sense.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:15 pm
by Pink Ball
I want Titus and spring as the last two, and me cutting the cord
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:20 pm
by farside22
In post 2578, springlullaby wrote:Farside, you are the one not making sense.
How am I scummy for not wanting to vote scum into the QT?
How does that even connect with scum failing or passing the quiz?
The only thing you said was when I asked Starbuck on why she thought it'd be fun to have her as a leader.
I explained why I asked that already, to gauge who'd she think she'd surprise (whom I suppose are who she thinks are scum).
You were fine day 1 with the idea. Why is this an issue today?
And again IF YOU READ THE GAME IT WAS FUCKING APPARENT!
You think she was lying given the situation day 1? Did you seriously miss abr attacking her? Or cakez saying she was scum or abr was at the end of the fucking day?
The question wasn't even to get anything alugnmrnt indicative and if you think it did explain how?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:25 pm
by Titus
In post 2572, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I really want someone to link me Farside’s Town game in case they are just normally Anti-Town and I’m just looking at them wrong.
Do you remember how you felt about Chemist in T v A?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:27 pm
by farside22
In post 567, springlullaby wrote:OK, stop. HAVE YOU READ THAT DENYING THE QUIZ TEAM IS AN AUTOMATIC ADVANTAGE FOR SCUM?
In post 567, springlullaby wrote:OK, stop. HAVE YOU READ THAT DENYING THE QUIZ TEAM IS AN AUTOMATIC ADVANTAGE FOR SCUM?
Can you ask if denying 3 times is an advantage for scum?
Instead of just once.
I think it's 3 denies. But just passing the team is the straight way to do it. I want no wiggle room for scum to automatically gain an advantage, instead of being forced to at least PoE if they want to fail the quiz.
So as you know, I'm the chainleader, and I'm also responsible of nominating a quiz team.
Here what I know about the team:
1) The quiz team size for tonight is 5 players.
2) All players on the quiz team get to pass or fail the quiz, by PM to the mod.
3) If the quiz is passed, town gain a unspecified advantage.
4) If the quiz is failed, scum gain a unspecified advantage.
5) All quiz team member must pass the quiz, for the quiz to be passed.
6) If no quiz team can be formed, scum gain an unspecified advantage.
> Given the above, there is zero advantage in veto-ing the quiz team since:
a) scum automatically gain an advantage anyway
b) quiz team failing or passing the quiz serves as PoE.
A) Quiz team members have the additional task of selecting the next chain leader by vote.
B) The next chain leader can be selected outside of the quiz team.
> Given all of the above, I'd like to take care of forming the quiz team first.
NOMINATE QUIZ TEAM:
1. Springlullaby
2. farside
3. Starbuck
4. Raya
5. Dunnstral
> Also, I will personally vote to nominate beeboy as the next chain leader.
Please vote to approve the quiz team.
This is all spring day 1 on her reasons and thought for the quiz.
She is now against it.
If she thinks scum is on it wouldn't it benefit her read on sb or me or raya or anyone she suspects? So why is she against it.
In post 2572, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I really want someone to link me Farside’s Town game in case they are just normally Anti-Town and I’m just looking at them wrong.
Do you remember how you felt about Chemist in T v A?
Since your sharing thing. Can you walk me through any reason to town read TSE. All i see is yelling, making false accusations and running a player into the ground with that player being scum regardless what they say.
In post 2572, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I really want someone to link me Farside’s Town game in case they are just normally Anti-Town and I’m just looking at them wrong.
Do you remember how you felt about Chemist in T v A?
Since your sharing thing. Can you walk me through any reason to town read TSE. All i see is yelling, making false accusations and running a player into the ground with that player being scum regardless what they say.
He did the same thing to Chemist in T v A.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:34 pm
by NDMath
In post 2475, midwaybear wrote:I think pink ball is a good choice. He’s been under the radar, but he doesn’t feel scummy(Nd)
Let's see this go through. Another deny is proscum IMO.
I don't get why the chainleaders keep saying denying is Proscum? There's nothing to back that up, and info can be gathered for late game from split approve/denies.
This makes me want to deny because I definitely see it happening if this quiz fails.
Though I townread Raya+Farside and feel this team does probably pass.
Gonna hold onto my vote since if I'm deciding vote I suddenly become relevant.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:35 pm
by Starbuck
In post 2534, farside22 wrote:SB: Are you passing the chain soon? I'm concerned about deadline I know it's 7 days but we have to at least talk about bottom 2 and i don't see a lot of people discussing that.
Yes, I'm just catching up on what I missed this evening and was going to read PB in ISO real quick. Then make a decision.
Not necessarily. I've been leaning town on you and wholeheartedly believe our fail is due to spring. She abstained from the vote and was setting up the plan before we even got in the Quiz PT last night by trying to hand the Chain Leader to beeboy and not Unwnd. I'm not the scum you are looking for and this sudden WK-ing of spring and sudden loss of confidence in me (when I'm not even going to be lynched today) is awkward to say the least.
Because you're wrong and if you're really town, your scumdar needs calibration.
In post 2584, farside22 wrote:This is all spring day 1 on her reasons and thought for the quiz.
She is now against it.
If she thinks scum is on it wouldn't it benefit her read on sb or me or raya or anyone she suspects? So why is she against it.
Yeah, she's completely done a 180. Also, spring's deny means that she abstained from the Quiz Team vote on Day 1 and denied the Quiz Team twice today. This is odd when she specifically said yesterday that town has no reason not to approve quiz teams.
I also think it's odd that she keeps pushing for my lynch when I have the chain.
In post 567, springlullaby wrote:OK, stop. HAVE YOU READ THAT DENYING THE QUIZ TEAM IS AN AUTOMATIC ADVANTAGE FOR SCUM?
Can you ask if denying 3 times is an advantage for scum?
Instead of just once.
I think it's 3 denies. But just passing the team is the straight way to do it. I want no wiggle room for scum to automatically gain an advantage, instead of being forced to at least PoE if they want to fail the quiz.
So as you know, I'm the chainleader, and I'm also responsible of nominating a quiz team.
Here what I know about the team:
1) The quiz team size for tonight is 5 players.
2) All players on the quiz team get to pass or fail the quiz, by PM to the mod.
3) If the quiz is passed, town gain a unspecified advantage.
4) If the quiz is failed, scum gain a unspecified advantage.
5) All quiz team member must pass the quiz, for the quiz to be passed.
6) If no quiz team can be formed, scum gain an unspecified advantage.
> Given the above, there is zero advantage in veto-ing the quiz team since:
a) scum automatically gain an advantage anyway
b) quiz team failing or passing the quiz serves as PoE.
A) Quiz team members have the additional task of selecting the next chain leader by vote.
B) The next chain leader can be selected outside of the quiz team.
> Given all of the above, I'd like to take care of forming the quiz team first.
NOMINATE QUIZ TEAM:
1. Springlullaby
2. farside
3. Starbuck
4. Raya
5. Dunnstral
> Also, I will personally vote to nominate beeboy as the next chain leader.
Please vote to approve the quiz team.
This is all spring day 1 on her reasons and thought for the quiz.
She is now against it.
If she thinks scum is on it wouldn't it benefit her read on sb or me or raya or anyone she suspects? So why is she against it.
Do you even read the thread? Or are you just trying to find angles to attack me?
I explicitly said if there was consensus on PoE, i'd approve of the team straight away.
BUT since there seems there isn't, I'm not getting framed for voting in scum.
In post 2542, unwnd wrote:I can see both of your dispositions. The quiz failed last time so it's not exactly wise for you to approve of it. It's just due retribution. Why not let things play out if you are so against it? I just feel like if I nominated either of you even if there was Starbuck/Raya on it, you would still agree.
Not true for me. I'm ok-ish with Raya atm. But not with Starbuck, and not really with farside either.
> Starbuck: I already stated why.
> Farside: I don't really like how she's seemed so slow to understand the setup. Than so outright against figuring it out.
If we all agree and decide that we should PoE from the first QT, supposing that scum failed it, I'd be ok with that then I'd approve of the team.
But since it's not the case, I'm just denying whatever team I think has scum on it
.
@farside who is now straight stating untruth.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:42 pm
by midwaybear
In post 2587, NDMath wrote:Good job, you've finally got a firm scum read.
says the guy who has only stated scumreads on me and ABR(and Starbuck I guess)
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:45 pm
by springlullaby
In post 2588, Starbuck wrote:
You haven't voted for ANY of the quiz teams so far, so it doesn't matter.
Irrevelant.
ALL of them.
Well, since you can all caps ALL, you may want to specify all occurences.
Because you're wrong and if you're really town, your scumdar needs calibration.
Well, if you are town, you aren't doing a good job of it.
Yeah, she's completely done a 180. Also, spring's deny means that she abstained from the Quiz Team vote on Day 1 and denied the Quiz Team twice today. This is odd when she specifically said yesterday that town has no reason not to approve quiz teams.
False and irrelevant.
I also think it's odd that she keeps pushing for my lynch when I have the chain.
I don't care whether you have the chain or not, I just state my reads. How is that even scummy may I ask?
Are you really that over the top OMGUS?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:48 pm
by Titus
In post 2589, springlullaby wrote:I explicitly said if there was consensus on PoE, i'd approve of the team straight away.
BUT since there seems there isn't, I'm not getting framed for voting in scum.
You'd only be "framed" if the team would actually pass the quiz, which you seem to know they would.
You also stated when this quiz gets voted down.
The simplest explanation is that you're scrambling for a defense, preemptively.
In post 2589, springlullaby wrote:I explicitly said if there was consensus on PoE, i'd approve of the team straight away.
BUT since there seems there isn't, I'm not getting framed for voting in scum.
You'd only be "framed" if the team would actually pass the quiz, which you seem to know they would.
You also stated when this quiz gets voted down.
The simplest explanation is that you're scrambling for a defense, preemptively.
...No, I'm defending myself from the QT failing, and people framing me for voting in scum
In post 2551, unwnd wrote:I really do think it's proscum especially right now so
I don't like your reasoning even if you think they're scum.
Why is denying the proposed team proscum right now? After all, we still have a week and it's not the last possible proposal. And what does your second statement mean(bolded)?
In post 2567, Pink Ball wrote:I don't think ND is the ideal lynch today, even if he hasn't posted, I'd like to get more info of the gamestate for D3 and lynching the lurker is not he best alternative for that matter
Who do you want to lynch then? This is the exact reason why lurking works.
unwnd is town, but a lot of the things he says don't make sense.
On what notion do you disagree? Don't just say it doesn't make sense.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:56 pm
by beeboy
@Starbuck I think it's passing so we can go back to moving the chain along.
I want Claire to have an incredibly annoying resolution when she gets back. B)
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:58 pm
by springlullaby
I retract the paranoia thing: I think it's farce.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:07 pm
by midwaybear
In post 2596, unwnd wrote:On what notion do you disagree? Don't just say it doesn't make sense
I asked you a question in the post you quoted. Would appreciate answer.
Also, you were being very complacent in 2555.
