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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:36 am
by Datisi
vote count 2.06

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-04-30 18:15:00).


execution
Asteria [3]:
Andante, DkKoba, T3
Andante [1]:
VFP
DKKoba [1]:
Anya
VFP [1]:
Andresvmb

not voting [5]:
osuka, PookyTheMagicalBear, Salsabil Faria, InsidiousLemons, Asteria


mod notes~ i am counting as an asteria vote


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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:37 am
by Asteria
Oh ok, that makes more sense. I still don't think the way Andante claimed comes from scum. I found Koba's vig claim bad but I still think it's better to let it resolve itself.

We can argue about the PR claims all day but in the end I think they're too high risk to elim in right now when they're more resolvable than other roles.

We should be hunting outside

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:38 am
by T3
o_o
I think this is a much safer vote. VOTE: Andre

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:38 am
by VFP
In post 2574, Anya wrote:their reasoning about you somehow being wolf because of this bizarre scenario where there's 2 mafia docs who protected both you and them is baloney
VOTE: DkKoba

The only thing that I thought was trying to play the LAMIST with saying who was the tracker.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:40 am
by Asteria
Yeah, I'm back to feeling very not good about andres

VOTE: andres

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:42 am
by VFP
In post 2576, Asteria wrote:Oh ok, that makes more sense. I still don't think the way Andante claimed comes from scum. I found Koba's vig claim bad but I still think it's better to let it resolve itself.

We can argue about the PR claims all day but in the end I think they're too high risk to elim in right now when they're more resolvable than other roles.

We should be hunting outside
Probably right. They most likely just pissed me off enough trying to lim me before I could even post that I let bias take hold. It just made me think that they noticed I was V/LA site wide and wanted to try it. If that is the case, shitty scum play right there.
That said, they are not out of light yet with that odd opinion swap just for me calling them scum.
It was like a panic and a back off until people started to ignore it to then conveniently come back into the game.
It was fake AtE regardless of the alignment too sadly.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:42 am
by VFP
In post 2579, Asteria wrote:Yeah, I'm back to feeling very not good about andres

VOTE: andres
VOTE: Andreas

I can go for this.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:22 am
by Andresvmb
Actually mechanically, we have a Scum between Koba and Asteria.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:24 am
by Andresvmb
Okay no maybe not. If Koba was RB’ed, then theoretically I guess not. I don’t see why the Scum would have done that, unless they don’t believe the Modifier to begin with I guess, but that’s the only alternative.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:25 am
by Andresvmb
Koba claims to have shot at VFP. They’re both alive. So some stopping ability occurred. But Asteria was able to check VFP, and has ruled them as Vanilla.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:26 am
by Andresvmb
So VFP was
not
Rolestopped, unless one of them is lying (and almost certainly Scum).

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:27 am
by Andresvmb
Which almost certainly means that one of {Asteria, Koba} is Scum.

If there’s a Town RB, you probably never block Koba there. I would think. I can’t think of a good reason you would, unless you thought they were Scum and lying about their role.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:30 am
by Andresvmb
So we’re down to the only solution, if everyone is Town, is that we have a Scum RB. I guess that’s some information.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:32 am
by Andresvmb
In post 2577, T3 wrote:o_o
I think this is a much safer vote. VOTE: Andre
This is safer if you want to execute Town, sure.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:35 am
by Anya
who do you think is wolf for play and outside of all this role shenaniganary though they're probably loving all these asteroids flying all over the place when the real threat is the death star

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:50 am
by Andresvmb
I am trying to figure out if Asteria and VFP as Scum tie themselves together here. It would be bold.

I’m going to flip Town. Koba might resolve themselves but if the Scum have an RB, maybe it doesn’t at all. And if that’s the case, they’re going to see pressure tomorrow. And if that goes through, that’s what, ELo?

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:51 am
by Andresvmb
In post 2589, Anya wrote:who do you think is wolf for play and outside of all this role shenaniganary though they're probably loving all these asteroids flying all over the place when the real threat is the death star
I have already shared this prior to these claims.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:52 am
by Andresvmb
Like you have my views unaffected by the claims. By play, I would execute VFP. I’m finding it fascinating that the check was there. It’s even more interesting that Koba decided to claim to have shot there.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:52 am
by Andresvmb
My instinct is that this isn’t all just coincidence. That just seems absurd.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:55 am
by Andresvmb
Like the Scum either really want VFP dead, or the Scum really want to protect VFP.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:55 am
by Andresvmb
I can’t find a really strong justification for the first one, and since it doesn’t quite square with a VT Claim and check, I’m leaning towards the second.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:57 am
by Anya
who's the wolf that really wants vfp dead in that scenario? dkkoba's check honestly means nothing bc neither them or vfp died, it just means they were roleblocked or are lying

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:58 am
by Andresvmb
In post 2596, Anya wrote:who's the wolf that really wants vfp dead in that scenario? dkkoba's check honestly means nothing bc neither them or vfp died, it just means they were roleblocked or are lying
Koba would have to be lying and be Scum.

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:58 am
by InsidiousLemons
that whole reaction check felt pretty fake to me. would not be surprised in the slightest if VFP is scum and Asteria's claim is baloney. mafdoc!VFP, anyone?

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:59 am
by InsidiousLemons
In post 2545, Anya wrote:so vfp is town unless we have a DkKoba asteria vfp house party exactly
like the more i think about it the less of a stretch this seems lol. is the wifom turning my brain to mush or is this just a holy trifecta of scum