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In post 2569, MathBlade wrote:What’s really odd is Enchant crumbed reads here that they cop checked me

That’s impossible if I was jailkept

Enchant would get no result

Cop checks aren't blocked if their target is Jailed, that's what an Alien does

PE: ninja

But yeah

Enchant checked me town

We just wait for him to get back

Then Enchant can just say so

In post 2572, Aristeia wrote:jailkeeper doesn't prevent that does it?

i thought only alien did that

This is correct and if enchant has an inno he should clarify. He did explicitly say he wasn't earlier iirc but maybe I misinterpreted

It's not like a hard guilty or anything obviously but I think it's like enough evidence against math to want to lim him personally

probly would've been nice to get enchant to confirm the inno b4 you outted the JK :<

In post 2146, Enchant wrote:I am not claiming anything.

I mean in my defense this seemed a lot like deconfirming the inno

I think it makes sense to wait for Enchant

we should've forced him to claim

In post 2579, Ausuka wrote:

In post 2146, Enchant wrote:I am not claiming anything.

I mean in my defense this seemed a lot like deconfirming the inno

I think you just wanted me dead

But you and Titus will likely get your wish of Enchant doesn’t confirm me like I think he should

I am a VT so it’s no big loss but seriously this is messed up

In post 2252, Titus wrote:I don't get why this is so hard or why HQ suddenly changed her position. We had 4 or 5 on Math yesterday. None of those slots were scumread. Math hasn't made any real effort to townblock. He was willing to compromise on a townread which is a huge scumtell from him. His woe is me posting tone exactly matches a prior scumgame but for the volume. This tells me the setup was designed to make one look town if the other flipped. Math is notoriously hard to eliminate.

Obviously, we may see a PR claim or two but I really don't get why this is so hard.

Insights followed by logical analysis just come to me. I was already having doubts when I i initially unvoted but I was so extremely tilted at Math that his not reacessing on either me or Dwelee made it easy to ignore those doubts. That happened jsyk even before I read the HEM scum pt but that obviously helped.

Pretty much if the majority of the playerlist wants Math dead very early in the game, that’s a definite sign to reacess. That and the egg on your face thing, sounds like Math actually believed HEM was flipping town at the time he said it.

In post 2264, Save The Dragons wrote:i can see a scum!mathblade coming into the thread blustering and trying to take control by derailing a hem wagon on his buddy then going onto hem when realizing it's not working

In that game he was scum, I recall him distancing his buddies. In fact he was Wking town!A50.

I'm probably going to be asked why I targeted math - scum didn't pick multitasking so it always made sense to jail likely vanilla players imo to stop the kill. Math was at the very bottom and widely scumread so I thought he would be a good choice

I did worry about stopping a vig shot on Math but I thought it wasn't a preventable risk if I was going to target someone scummy

Pedit: well yes I want you dead, mostly because of the jailkeep thing honestly, I think that's reasonable

No I still think you’re scum here

I feel like the answer is on the tip of my tongue and I can’t explain it

In post 2266, Aristeia wrote:and the way HEM turned towards voting mathblade was super unaligned imo

Math’s reaction looked like he was annoyed at HEM. That’s why I emphatically disagree with Implosion’s criticism of my assessment.

HEM wanted to make Math look like a buddy but then I think he gave up.

In post 2585, Ausuka wrote:I did worry about stopping a vig shot on Math but I thought it wasn't a preventable risk if I was going to target someone scummy

you probably did stop a vig shot on mathblade lol

In post 2270, Aristeia wrote:if math is town there doesnt have to be any scum pushing him

It depends on the game. In Koba mini normal and to a lesser extent White Flag, he seemed pretty damned townie, especially in the mini normal. that’s why I was confused by his play here.

In post 2589, Harley Quinn wrote:

In post 2270, Aristeia wrote:if math is town there doesnt have to be any scum pushing him

It depends on the game. In Koba mini normal and to a lesser extent White Flag, he seemed pretty damned townie, especially in the mini normal. that’s why I was confused by his play here.

In mini normal, his reads were pretty much on point, so scum raged at him but in White Flag they were way off, so scum just happily sheeped them to victory.

In post 2288, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2283, Aristeia wrote:

In post 2273, MathBlade wrote:Coordinated attack on me. Titus + A day play fits.

they're attacking you because you're scummy not because they're scum -_-

I am not though.

I am frustrating and annoying but I am not scummy.

They aren’t arguing that I am though.

That’s the crux as to why they are scum.

You were uberscummy on d1, which is why I was so convinced you were scum. When you have time, you might want to reread my case on you, so you can hopefully avoid doing that in the future.

In post 2591, Harley Quinn wrote:

In post 2288, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2283, Aristeia wrote:

In post 2273, MathBlade wrote:Coordinated attack on me. Titus + A day play fits.

they're attacking you because you're scummy not because they're scum -_-

I am not though.

I am frustrating and annoying but I am not scummy.

They aren’t arguing that I am though.

That’s the crux as to why they are scum.

You were uberscummy on d1, which is why I was so convinced you were scum. When you have time, you might want to reread my case on you, so you can hopefully avoid doing that in the future.

Like you and Ari say that

But I don’t think I was

I have rethought about my play and the only remotely possible scummy thing is going against popular opinion.

But that isn’t scummy

Like I don’t get what is scummy?

In post 2289, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2171, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: Mathblade

As long as Enchant doesn't have a literal innocent I am definitely down for this

Don't see why he's obvtown, I don't think it's that rare for scum to bus each other when going down

Don't think it's Titus here

Take a look here

There’s no reasons mentioned for why I am scum

Just that she is voting me and it’s not Titus

Prior to deadline, Ausuka cited my case on you as her reasons but I don’t obviously agree with that now. I just think you ought to listen to what Ari’s telling you. It’s always a good idea to listen to others’ feedback. I used to deathtunnell without reacessing and it didn’t bode well for me, so I learned to listen to other people’s opinions.

So I am scummy for not agreeing with popular opinion?

Wow okay

I am taking in feedback I just disagree

I am thinking Asuaka jailkept me as a Titus gambit.

I still think it is those two.

The thing I take from that is suck up to whoever is the most popular

Which isn’t helpful because then I can’t have an opinion

So seriously what is scummy?

I know I am going down today

I know I flip VT

But if no one claims Doctor by elo mark my words

This is a designed gambit here because I will flip VT

So either I was shot by scum (unlikely) or scum no killed if no doctor claim

Barring Enchant confirming me as town which I think he should do but quite frankly it might not be worth it at this point

But the claim should be clarified

In post 2348, Aristeia wrote:theres no way a town player picks bulletproof over ascetic cop that might be legit throwing

People don’t necessarily think that way, it depends on the player. I could definitely see a town player who thinks they’re an extremely good choice to be nk’d picking bp.

In post 2352, Titus wrote:I did leave open that possibility but your stauch defense of obvscum comes from nowhere and I can't see what it's based on.

Titus, there is no way Ari and HEM are ever buddies here. Their interactions totally did not look like scum theatre and I tr her apart from HEM’s alignment. You really need to get off of that. Ari’s spewed locktown by HEM flip.