I dont think that its that telling 15 minutes Into the game sadly
This back and forth with me feels like more interactive real timing than i noticed you doing for most of day one. Is there any reason for that? Either for the relative lack of it day 1 or for doing it now?
I'm interested in real timing with you in particular so I'm delighted rn.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:18 pm
by Nero Cain
tbh this looks so much like a scum hop onto the con wagon
I dont think that its that telling 15 minutes Into the game sadly
This back and forth with me feels like more interactive real timing than i noticed you doing for most of day one. Is there any reason for that? Either for the relative lack of it day 1 or for doing it now?
I'm interested in real timing with you in particular so I'm delighted rn.
the longer days go on when i dont have any reason to really change my mind the less i care about the game especially on day 1 with like next to no info
i get the tired sleepy when it comes to mafia
start of day exciting and fun but i will probably burn out after i figure out what i want to do for Ze day
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:19 pm
by Thestatusquo
Dig more into my wall and you'll also notice i said basically nothing about vpb because honestly he didn't make that much of an impression on me.
Which looks like garbage now that the flip has happened but I'm not gunna go add a bunch of stuff ex post facto.
Dannflor (3): GuiltyLion, Frogsterking, fireisredsir
GuiltyLion (2): obscure, Dannflor
Gamma Emerald (2): marcistar, Nero Cain
obscure (1): Firebringer
Aristeia (1): ConManMick
Not voting (1): xofelf
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2022-09-09 23:15:00). With 20 alive, 11 is needed to lim and 10 to no lim.
my one thought overnight was that i thought there were wolves in the bolded at least one
and i was Correct
I dont think that its that telling 15 minutes Into the game sadly
This back and forth with me feels like more interactive real timing than i noticed you doing for most of day one. Is there any reason for that? Either for the relative lack of it day 1 or for doing it now?
I'm interested in real timing with you in particular so I'm delighted rn.
the longer days go on when i dont have any reason to really change my mind the less i care about the game especially on day 1 with like next to no info
i get the tired sleepy when it comes to mafia
start of day exciting and fun but i will probably burn out after i figure out what i want to do for Ze day
I like this answer.
I found your slot extremely hard to sort because i don't remember what you're like despite having i think modded you a couple times.
I kept feeling like you weren't doing very much. Let me into your head.
In post 370, Ausuka wrote:Why do you ask? I think there's enough content here that you don't have to pick at vibe reads
Seemed like a read not based in reality.
What should I be picking at?
What does "a read not based in reality" actually mean
It means it seems like you made it up and now you are covering poo with ~vibes~
This feels like a wildly out-of-nowhere take?? Like even if you think Ausuka's wrong I'm not sure why it's so unbelievable that her wrong read would be based on vibes
In post 247, humaneatingmonkey wrote:dats, why didn't you withhold your ari read before she can explain what her baltar read was so you can read her better
well for one, she can still explain it. for two, i think scum-her is capable of faking that read. so i don't think it's too alignment-indicative either way.
Why bring it up if it's NAI?
wow can't believe Datisi is the planned D1 bus for once
In post 1088, Irrelephant11 wrote:I was actually just on VPB and my townlean on VPB has mostly faded at this point. Could go either way. Datisi feels like a lightning rod choice bound to pull in a lot of attention, alternatively VPB might be an interesting wagon as someone sitting closer to most people's null piles. So uh yeah, could go either way lol
This back and forth progression on VPB feels more likely to be real and not a projected trajectory
hmmm
usually I don't see scum fake reversals like 403 to 652
however the fact that VPB flipped maf weakens that somewhat as it could be a thing specifically to pretend to be uninformed
I genuinely don't know if I feel strongly about this being T-S or S-S, would love to hear others opinions
I dont think that its that telling 15 minutes Into the game sadly
This back and forth with me feels like more interactive real timing than i noticed you doing for most of day one. Is there any reason for that? Either for the relative lack of it day 1 or for doing it now?
I'm interested in real timing with you in particular so I'm delighted rn.
the longer days go on when i dont have any reason to really change my mind the less i care about the game especially on day 1 with like next to no info
i get the tired sleepy when it comes to mafia
start of day exciting and fun but i will probably burn out after i figure out what i want to do for Ze day
I like this answer.
I found your slot extremely hard to sort because i don't remember what you're like despite having i think modded you a couple times.
I kept feeling like you weren't doing very much. Let me into your head.
im deranged. also there isnt a whole lot right now because it was goop at the end of day 1 and now im kind of waiting for everyone to check in
i dont think the wagons mean too much or like. you cant really read them well on the basis of vp balter's it doesn't say a lot
Gamma, HEM, Nero, Frogster, GuiltyLion, Obscure, xof,
Null+:
Dann, Relly,
Idk:
Deasvail
groupscum:
datisi, vpb, fireisredsir, conmanmick
mafia traitor:
firebringer
this is mostly where i'm at now.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:24 pm
by Nero Cain
I mean, doubt VP was the lone scum on that wagon.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:24 pm
by Thestatusquo
It's very important to recognize that knowing what i know now i wouldn't have voted CMM as either alignment.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:24 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
VOTE: Datisi
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:25 pm
by fireisredsir
In post 2547, Thestatusquo wrote:Post 270 is a YIKES from me. Saying that the town read on ausuka came from the datisi callout but the proclamation of ausuka town read came BEFORE the post which is referenced in this post. Post hoc justification of a read is serious scum vibes. There was no datisi callout yet, just a naked vote.
um ausuka voting datisi for that post is why i called ausuka town
the vote was not naked it was directly in response to datisi's post and quoted it
she did not explain the reasoning behind it but she didn't need to bc i understood what she was thinking anyway (or at least i thought i did, and her later explanation confirmed that)
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:26 pm
by Thestatusquo
I'm really interested in what people think about what i think about obscure.
Because i was not happy when i came to the conclusions i did. So sanity checks appreciated.
In post 2547, Thestatusquo wrote:Post 270 is a YIKES from me. Saying that the town read on ausuka came from the datisi callout but the proclamation of ausuka town read came BEFORE the post which is referenced in this post. Post hoc justification of a read is serious scum vibes. There was no datisi callout yet, just a naked vote.
um ausuka voting datisi for that post is why i called ausuka town
the vote was not naked it was directly in response to datisi's post and quoted it
she did not explain the reasoning behind it but she didn't need to bc i understood what she was thinking anyway (or at least i thought i did, and her later explanation confirmed that)
Possible i missed that context. I'll go back and reread it later tonight and decide if i was being unfair.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:33 pm
by Nero Cain
the ari kill is WIFOM. Her reads aren't perfect obv and they weren't that far off from mine though my scum reads were mostly in her null pile.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:36 pm
by fireisredsir
In post 2547, Thestatusquo wrote:Post 1414 self meta is either useless or cheating. Either you are lying and you try to do these things equally because you are aware of them, OR you are actually aware of the differences in your play and intentionally not fixing them and bringing them to the attention of others in your town games is borderline trust telling. So I guess my question to you is: Which is it? Are you so bad that there is a massive difference in your town games and your scum games in how you fundamentally approach day one and you’re mentioning that here to say you’re town in this game, or are you a capable town and scum player who we can safely disregard your self meta description of yourself?
don't rly care what you think about the usefulness of self meta, i like sharing my thoughts. you are welcome to ignore them if you want
calling it borderline trust telling is ridiculous. nowhere did i say that my town and scum games are wildly divergent and that one should be instantly recognizable. i was just trying to explain my motivations/mindset in this specific game bc it was relevant to the post i was responding to
my goal as scum is not to precisely imitate my townplay. it's to get townread and to kill town. those are accomplished in very different ways so your point here is irrelevant
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:37 pm
by marcistar
is it bad i barely know how to play anymore
i tried scroll reading the thread during the night but barely anything stood out to me
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:39 pm
by Frogsterking
My solve coming into today was elephant (replacement), Baltar, firebringer (replacement), and dannflor. I expected this list of 4 to contain at least 2 scum.
I see no reason now to second guess my analysis, and I suggest there is at least 1 scum in elephant (replacement), firebringer (replacement) and dannflor.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:39 pm
by obscure
@thestatusquo I am a new player. I'm not asking to be seen as townie for it as I do have experience with social deduction games but I would prefer if you respect the fact that I am new regardless because... what you're saying is coming across as quite offensive when I'm only trying to figure things out. Maybe I seem dumb but subbing into a game for the first time in so many pages as my first game ever isn't exactly easy.
More thoughts tomorrow.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:39 pm
by marcistar
In post 2594, obscure wrote:@thestatusquo I am a new player. I'm not asking to be seen as townie for it as I do have experience with social deduction games but I would prefer if you respect the fact that I am new regardless because... what you're saying is coming across as quite offensive when I'm only trying to figure things out. Maybe I seem dumb but subbing into a game for the first time in so many pages as my first game ever isn't exactly easy.
In post 2547, Thestatusquo wrote:Post 1414 self meta is either useless or cheating. Either you are lying and you try to do these things equally because you are aware of them, OR you are actually aware of the differences in your play and intentionally not fixing them and bringing them to the attention of others in your town games is borderline trust telling. So I guess my question to you is: Which is it? Are you so bad that there is a massive difference in your town games and your scum games in how you fundamentally approach day one and you’re mentioning that here to say you’re town in this game, or are you a capable town and scum player who we can safely disregard your self meta description of yourself?
don't rly care what you think about the usefulness of self meta, i like sharing my thoughts. you are welcome to ignore them if you want
calling it borderline trust telling is ridiculous. nowhere did i say that my town and scum games are wildly divergent and that one should be instantly recognizable. i was just trying to explain my motivations/mindset in this specific game bc it was relevant to the post i was responding to
my goal as scum is not to precisely imitate my townplay. it's to get townread and to kill town. those are accomplished in very different ways so your point here is irrelevant
I disagree with you about this but i don't actually think it's relevant to your alignment so I'm not really interested in discussing it further.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:40 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2588, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm really interested in what people think about what i think about obscure.
Because i was not happy when i came to the conclusions i did. So sanity checks appreciated.
It’s not bad I think
I wasn’t really scanning for excessive noob card usage but from your scan it seems that was going on and I’ve def seen scum use it to great effect
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:42 pm
by Thestatusquo
In post 2594, obscure wrote:@thestatusquo I am a new player. I'm not asking to be seen as townie for it as I do have experience with social deduction games but I would prefer if you respect the fact that I am new regardless because... what you're saying is coming across as quite offensive when I'm only trying to figure things out. Maybe I seem dumb but subbing into a game for the first time in so many pages as my first game ever isn't exactly easy.