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I even have more than one scum read, he's just the only one that I feel completely comfortable with at this stage.

Hey! BnB, 2: Cut the it the fuck out. Really, it's day ONE and we're at 105 pages, and you guys been quarreling over how much you hate each other for at least five of that. We need input on who's scum, not four people who can't restrain their dislike of each other in thread.

In post 2601, Ghostlin wrote:Hey! BnB, 2: Cut the it the fuck out. Really, it's day ONE and we're at 105 pages, and you guys been quarreling over how much you hate each other for at least five of that. We need input on who's scum, not four people who can't restrain their dislike of each other in thread.

hey ghostlin!

2 and I do not hate each other. buldey and I are going through a rough time in our friendship but fery and I are probably solid and it would take more than some dumb game to change that. I have nothing but love for fery and she knows that.

so you are very far off the mark! and 2 is scum.

In post 2584, Sajin wrote:

In post 2559, Sajin wrote:

In post 2558, Venmar wrote:

In post 2552, Sajin wrote:@Venmar- Have a spine please. If it is a gut feeling and you felt like posting about it, it must be because you were trying to convince someone else of your position. Yet you have nothing to backup your position. This earns scum points from me.

- Lol wtf is this.

It is a proper reasoned accusation. What is the point of your post? If you disagree with what I said, say so and explain.

Venmar this is the initial question I asked you. Can you respond to that?

I believe I did? In 2564?

In post 2537, Cabd wrote:Case against sonic:

1.
Somehow manages to ISO another player with a few posts from a town POV (which means reading deeply not skimming the shit out of it) within a minute. It's doable, but only if you're only looking for stuff that would affect you or a few other people (aka his scum team)

2.
Accepted me as town without really explaining why or questioning it. I'd sure as hell not be sold at me being town that early, I

was

am fucking horrible today.

3.
Stopped really doing... anything once the BnB x 2 x Cabd threesome orgy started. Actually, well before that started.

You are forgetting the fact that he managed to read 30 pages in 15 minutes AND establish 8 reads supposedly based on the content of these 30 pages.

- b

Okay ISOed MS. I totally agree with whoever said that the TD vote where he voted after one minute of saying he was going to ISO someone is scummy and artificial as hell. I also really don't like their early play where he seemed to not interact with anyone really and just throw up reads without reasoning. While I have done that in the past in large games just so I have something to look back on if I'm ever lost, he does nothing to really push his scumreads. Definitely willing to vote.

Will ISO some others later today.

In post 2208, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Fyi these are

my

current reads. Mollie and I share on a few.

Scum
{² , Aj The Epic, Andrius, BROseidon, Cabd, Tiphane, Varsoon}

Town
{dntfkingcare, Ghostlin, GuyInFreezer, MS, Orci, Rach, Sajin, Nacho}

Null
{Keybladewielder, Mac, Rev, TMTOLBTWNTOF}

In post 2437, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:for town I have nacho, mac, orc, rev, rach, sajin, ghostlin, venny, varsoon and td.

unsure on andy. more dancing required.

for scum I have: 2, aj, metal, cabd and tmt

wondering if there are 5 scum.

In post 2545, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Also these are my general reads.

Town but Mollie strongly disagrees and my read is just gut so technically scum ish I guess.
{², Aj The Epic}

Town
{Venmar, GIF, SAD, MS, Orci, Rach, Sajin, Reverend, Nacho, Varsoon}

Scum
{Andrius, BROseidon, Cabd, TD}

Still not sure
{Ghostlin, Mac. TMTOLBTWNTOF}

Why the heck are different hydra heads giving opposite reads on me this is just the weirdest ever

Majiffy reads me town Mollie reads me scum

F reads me town b reads me scum


oh please

"one minute iso is scummy"

"reading fast is scummy"

fuck off, those are null tells like seriously you should not be reading me worse than null even I would read myself null/town from outside perspective

^ rattled scum is rattled

metal sonic can you post some of your previous games please.

In post 2576, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:what I don't like about your recent posts is that they are a bit of a misrep.

I provided some lengthy good content

that you are dismissing. fery of 2 said I smelled funny.

buldey is pursuing an irrelevant point where I say he played well as scum

.

how do the two even compare

No you did not, you provided a bunch of accusations that I refuted.

I'm pursuing a point BECAUSE YOU'RE LYING TO GET YOUR WAGON GOING. Every time I refute one of your accusations, you just make a new one. It's like a fucking paradox. I know you know that you're lying about whether you think I'm capable of doing scumhunting as scum, because you complimented me on my scum game and said you had to reevaluate your own perception of what I was capable subsequent to a game I finished with a perfect win as scum where you were the mod.

- b

In post 2607, Metal Sonic wrote:"one minute iso is scummy"

"reading fast is scummy"

Well no I think the point I'm trying to get across (and probably others?) is that saying you're going to ISO someone and then one minute later vote them means you really had no actual interesting in getting a read on them, and that you had already determined they're scumread and put in that BS about "ISOing them" to look like you're a townie genuinely attempting to figure out someone's alignment.

buldy, do you think b&b is scum?

In post 2607, Metal Sonic wrote:"one minute iso is scummy"

"reading fast is scummy"

fuck off, those are null tells like seriously you should not be reading me worse than null even I would read myself null/town from outside perspective

How about reading 30 pages in 15 minutes? Are you going to simply avoid commenting on that?

- b

In post 2611, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:

In post 2607, Metal Sonic wrote:"one minute iso is scummy"

"reading fast is scummy"

Well no I think the point I'm trying to get across (and probably others?) is that saying you're going to ISO someone and then one minute later vote them means you really had no actual interesting in getting a read on them, and that you had already determined they're scumread and put in that BS about "ISOing them" to look like you're a townie genuinely attempting to figure out someone's alignment.

I don't get why you guys are so obsessed with the 1 minut ISO. To me it's much more significant that he pretended to have made 8 reads (7 town and 1 scum) based off of reading 30 pages in 15 minutes. That's virtually impossible.

- b

In post 2612, TheReverend wrote:buldy, do you think b&b is scum?

In a nutshell I probably would mostly because of mollie, but f is very certain about their alignment and Majiffy doesn't look scummy to me the way he usually does when he's scum (I can provide you with links to several games where I've correctly read him as scum quite quickly if need be). So, all things considered I think they're town.

- b

So what would be the motivation to lie if b&b is town? You're saying mollie is lying to push her agenda, what agenda is that is she's town?

In post 2616, TheReverend wrote:So what would be the motivation to lie if b&b is town? You're saying mollie is lying to push her agenda, what agenda is that is she's town?

Your guess is as good as mine? If she's convinced that we're scum then she may not care what road she's taking to get us lynched. The other possibility is some sort of personal vendetta. All I know is that she's lying, as I've already pointed out, and that she's being inherently anti-town in doing so.

- b

In post 2617, ² wrote:All I know is that she's lying, as I've already pointed out, and that she's being inherently anti-town in doing so.

The from your town pov she's scum. I don't know if she's lying or not, what I do know is that if someone was pushing for my mislynch by lying, I would not consider that person town, because there is no town motivation for lying to push lynches.



That's L-2

I haven't lied about anything.

I think you are a good scum player

I really don't see the lie what I see is you twisting my words into some dumbass fucking convoluted narrative.

In post 2619, pirate mollie wrote:I haven't lied about anything.

I think you are a good scum player

I really don't see the lie what I see is you twisting my words into some dumbass fucking convoluted narrative.

^that was me

And 2 has gone quiet. Discussing fakeclaim with f is it?

The Rev,

if were were scum, I guarantee we'd have had our fake claim ducks in a row not long after seeing our role pm.

I have a different view of what is going on between b and mollie, as opposed to what's going on between her and me. She and I have often disagreed about the specifics of past games. Memories are based on PoVs and what sticks with a player is very dependent on that PoV.

- f

In post 2618, TheReverend wrote:

In post 2617, ² wrote:All I know is that she's lying, as I've already pointed out, and that she's being inherently anti-town in doing so.

The from your town pov she's scum. I don't know if she's lying or not, what I do know is that if someone was pushing for my mislynch by lying, I would not consider that person town, because there is no town motivation for lying to push lynches.

vote - 2

That's L-2

No, from my town POV she's town. I've explained several times why being anti-town is not the same as being scummy, but you simply don't seem to understand this. Why don't you ask some of the other experienced players if you don't trust me? There a town motivation for it. She thinks we're scum and she's willing to do whatever it takes to get us lynched. She differs from other players in that regard. I've pointed this out several times as well - and not only in this game. Once she decides on someone being scum, she's going into tunnel mode and she's going to interpret everything scummy and (as evident by this game) she's also willing to lie to get her wagon moving.

What you would or not would consider that person is entirely up to you, but I think you're making a mistake in asserting that anti-town behavior is automatically scummy behavior.

- b

no static at all