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VOTE: tic 7 pages in, this might be a hammer idc, tic is scum

↑ Skybird wrote:

↑ Skybird wrote:

↑ pistachi0n wrote:

↑ Skybird wrote:Welcome Marquis!

Pistach, I get better as the game goes on.

What's bothering me is why you feel the need to talk about this at all.

You brought it up as a scum point against me. I'm responding with the truth.

After looking at last night's actions, how has that changed your reads?

Pist, I don't think you answered this yet. Who do you think is scum on the ranger wagon?

Probably SirCakez.

↑ SirCakez wrote:Sorry Ranger my gut was right about you but I couldn't stop the lynch

This after being a part of the wagon.

And it's not like he voted and then didn't get a chance to unvote--he posted plenty between his vote and the hammer that lynched her.

↑ True Ogre wrote:

↑ Friendless Seniors wrote:
True Ogre, if you're not town then serious props to you cause you completely fooled me
god tier townread right now

Yeah thanks for that. I love being townread for prematurely claiming and forcing an IC to claim when setup balance probably assumes they might last until mylo.
I also love the conflicting emotion of being townread for what I think is a bad reason.

that's not really the reason i'm townreading you. i had you as town D1.

↑ SirCakez wrote:I liked TWL earlier on but now they are doing 0 things to scumhunt which is bad.

oh boy

↑ Skybird wrote:FS is smart enough to know that they were being scum read and to shift their comments to seem more town.

is this real

-EP

↑ itlepip wrote:VOTE: tic 7 pages in, this might be a hammer idc, tic is scum

Yo pip. Shouldn't you try to get me lynched? It's a golden opportunity. Maybe I'll get out of this state of detachment I'm currently in if you attack me.

2595 is weird. I agree with FS about the whole townreading TO thing, but it's for the quality of his content and the general inquisitive and purposeful nature of his posting, rather than because of the miller/IC thing. Deliberately pointing that out feels suspect though, because it's really not a huge mark against them, but it will get people to townread you when they see you turn down easy town cred.

TO(or anyone else can answer this, actually), I suck, and I have nothing noted for this game. What has been the general thrust and flow of TO's FS read? Was he *actively* scumreading them throughout, or just kinda going with the flow of the general pressure against them?

Sircakez 2350 is disgusting. There was clear work being done by some parties(including myself) to actively argue against a Ranger lynch, and in the position he was on in the wagon, he could have actually done something about it. I mean, I suppose we can make some allowance because of the late wagon etc, but still. I don't like the "oh, woe is me, I wagoned you but didn't argue against it even though I thought you were town deep down inside". (If you did argue against it at length and I don't remember it because I've mainly been skimming this game and nothing has really sunk in and stayed there, please tell me I'm wrong, thanks).

I did try to do something about it, I made a town case on Ranger <.<
At the end it was Ranger or nolynch and flipping Ranger at least gave us info.

↑ Cerberus v666 wrote:Deliberately pointing that out feels suspect though, because it's really not a huge mark against them, but it will get people to townread you when they see you turn down easy town cred.

cerb nothing you have ever said has ever resonated with me more.

-ep

↑ SirCakez wrote:I did try to do something about it, I made a town case on Ranger <.<
At the end it was Ranger or nolynch and flipping Ranger at least gave us info.

Oh, okay. I guess I'll look for the town case at some point to see how hard you tried. Like I said, I'm not paying as much attention to this game as I like. I'm kinda just...watching the general ebb and flow of things.

It's weird.

↑ tictac wrote:Can it with the PR speculation.

No need for platitudes. It's a valid line of inquiry.

What role could have divined that part of pistachion's role was more than just a Miller, such that pistachion was still votable? As in, it's not a Rolecop, Tracker, Cop, or a role of that sort. It's partially curiosity, but more than that, it just doesn't add up to me.

My strongest scumread is still Skybird - who just jumped in, quoted the mod innocent, and unvoted (again, scum just doing the bare minimum to try and look town, with no trajectory of other reads or where to revote).

I think cerb's last post was him being scared of my read on him so he is already discrediting it.

Someone tell me to ISO marquis when I have time.
There might be something to glean from the way Marquis is pushing skybird, because something seems off.

-EP

↑ itlepip wrote:I think cerb's last post was him being scared of my read on him so he is already discrediting it.

YES! That's the spirit pip! You channel all that beeboy slot aggression into tunneling me, and I'll either ignore you or start playing mafia properly!

Marquis is town btw. Cerb the issue is that I still am about 100 posts fron your entrance

↑ itlepip wrote:Marquis is town btw. Cerb the issue is that I still am about 100 posts fron your entrance

Got it. That is a problem, yes. Someone else needs to obvtown hard while I'm here and actively reading.

And someone needs to ask me questions or something, again, while I'm here and actively reading.

That way I can sheep the person who obvtowns, or, alternatively, get engaged in this again.

Beeboy should have been obvtown

↑ itlepip wrote:Beeboy should have been obvtown

Is this like, a reverse Amished? The play of your predecessor was so good that we're all fools for not seeing that he wasn't town?

IMO, Beeboys pushes were crap, piled on crap. Not least because I tended to disagree with most of his expressed reads.

After you catch up, I'd love to see you comment on what aspects of the cases he made were good.

↑ Friendless Seniors wrote:Someone tell me to ISO marquis when I have time.
There might be something to glean from the way Marquis is pushing skybird, because something seems off.

-EP

...was I wrong? Are you scum?

EP, I need you to obvtown it up, and soon.

Cerb you being scummier this game would make my life so much easier.

↑ SirCakez wrote:VOTE: The Wrong Lynch
Do something please

I liked TWL earlier on but now they are doing 0 things to scumhunt which is bad.

What about TWL's early play did you like? I thought it was pretty bad myself.

You being on this makes me feel kind of gross. I like pushing TWL, but I don't like you doing it.

I also asked you about your day one play, I don't really want to hunt down the post with your excuse for poor scumhunting, but I still want a better explanation.

↑ Marquis wrote:

↑ tictac wrote:Can it with the PR speculation.

No need for platitudes. It's a valid line of inquiry.

What role could have divined that part of pistachion's role was more than just a Miller, such that pistachion was still votable? As in, it's not a Rolecop, Tracker, Cop, or a role of that sort. It's partially curiosity, but more than that, it just doesn't add up to me.

My strongest scumread is still Skybird - who just jumped in, quoted the mod innocent, and unvoted (again, scum just doing the bare minimum to try and look town, with no trajectory of other reads or where to revote).

I somewhat agree with this, the cats already out of the bag so to speak. The instant Ogre mentioned that he had a result on Pistachion it was already immediately apparent he was an investigative role of some sort.

I was initially suspicious of his motivations which is why I initially pressed him on it. Seeing as how as a cop he shouldn't have investigated her, and as a rolecop he should have known better than to out her. Then it occurred to me that he was probably a role cop, and Pistachion likely has a nonstandard role name.

Ogre might want to keep it in the bag to keep people guessing, but unless one of them says something different that's going to be my assumption.

Beeboy WAS obvtown Day one. So was Ogre.

For the record, I also dislike the fact that a day before the deadline Cakez changed his read on Seniors from scum to town.

Or why he still hasn't explained why he's so convinced Tictac's scum.

Or why he still isn't pushing for a lynch on me.

^^^ both of these are true.

(sorry ninjaed I meant 2620)

I can't push four different lynches at once ffs
I liked their level of engagement and scumhunting early on, though that has obviously dropped off.
If you seriously need a tictac case I'll make one.