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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:43 pm
by Momrangal
I holstered.

I forgot/didn't read the entire plan and thought I wasn't doing anything

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:44 pm
by Mathdino
inb4 gamethrow

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:44 pm
by InfernoBrafin
I assume nothing.
However, given those parameters, I would lynch in order of N_M, Beef, then Mom.

P-edit: Now THAT'S lynchable. Switch the last two based on that post alone.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:51 pm
by Momrangal
I don't game throw as scum. If anything I pay more attention to the game as scum so that I can get stuff figured out. Idk about the whole faking a townslip thing but I wouldn't personally be writing me off based off the fact that I thought scum couldn't kill and do an action

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:53 pm
by Mathdino
i'm saying if you get lynched off this and you're town...

regardless how is it that you pay more attention as scum

but also wouldn't write yourself off for not paying attention

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:56 pm
by Momrangal
I pay more attention as scum but like if I was someone else looking at me I would see either a genuine slip or like a tactical insertion of words because I do that all the time

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:58 pm
by Mathdino
who tf is scum marangal

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:04 pm
by Momrangal
I still think its NM/The worst.


I mean, unless we believe that beef can be a JKstrongman then that's the only way he could have possibly made any kill.

NM motion detect makes sense in that it's used to find town PR and I am not sure I really buy a weak cop with a hider. The crumbs are good, but if he was planning it from the get go, hose crumbs are not hard drops

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:07 pm
by Momrangal
I also need to do an iso thing and check up on what you're saying about the NM/beef team but i also don't think the plans have worst accounted for in any of them

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:14 pm
by the worst
Food for thought.. Is a scumteam with an investigation immune and a ninja totally ridiculous?

I wouldn't even consider it if not for the fact there are so many investigatives.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:26 pm
by Mathdino
Kthxbye confirmed that Not_Mafia used an investigative role, so the ninja would have to be Marangal.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:00 pm
by Mathdino
Scenarios that explain what happened last night:
A. the worst is scum (lying).
B. Beefster is scum (jailed the worst).
C. Marangal is specifically a mafia roleblocker (blocked the worst).

Marangal clearly believed she had legitimately sent a message to mastina. This means that if she's scum, she's scum with Beefster or the worst. Full stop. She cannot be scum with Not_Mafia because N_M is a confirmed investigative.

The possible scumteams are then:
Beefster/Marangal: Beefster jailkeeper, Marangal something or other
Beefster/Not_Mafia: Beefster jailkeeper, Not_Mafia investigative, one of the two is a strongman to explain shooting through my bodyguard.
Beefster/the worst: Beefster jailkeeper, the worst strongman
Marangal/the worst: Marangal messenger, the worst strongman
Not_Mafia/the worst: Not_Mafia investigative, the worst strongman

Mechanically, Beefster/Not_Mafia is implausible.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:54 pm
by the worst
Yeah it's Mom/Beef.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:55 pm
by the worst
I want to vote Mom here but can't remember vc

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:17 pm
by the worst
PROBLEM

Is there any reason I'd get a result tonight??

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:35 pm
by the worst
Sorry for hyperposting. I'm thinking about this game a lot.

I haven't analysed whether Beef/N_M is mechanically possible but I can only see two scumteams and they both have Mom in them.

Is anyone around? I want to talk night plans

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:09 am
by the worst
So because Australia I can maybe hopefully read some answers when I wake up.

How likely is Mastina to have totally nailed scum? That would have N_M as scum and Mom as town. Beef I'm not sure how to read here.

Do we think that acryon townreads his entire scumteam (A50, Mom, N_M) or is it more likely he's townblocking A50 + {Mom/N_M} and distancing from Beefster?

AND... tinfoilish but I'm tired so meh, how much do people believe Mom's messenger claim....... Rereading and rereading her interactions with Mastina about the alleged action it's starting to feel kinda mechanical and less frustrated...... and this is still unconfirmed because she mysteriously forgot to act last night........

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:43 am
by Momrangal
If I was fake-claiming it would be way to easy to just lie and push you and win today

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:45 am
by Momrangal
But entertain me, and let me know what that second scum team that it is that you see me in

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:49 am
by the worst
Niceee

I'm worried I'm getting a bit tunnel visioned which is why I need to talk to someone abt this but I'm actually not sure I believe your messenger claim at all. I don't know what you are but if you aren't that, it opens a lot of possibilities.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:50 am
by the worst
I can still believe you/N_M as a team.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:56 am
by Momrangal
If it's me and NM how did I kill N1? Strongman does not bypass a block, only protectives

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:00 am
by Not_Mafia
ascetic

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:00 am
by Not_Mafia
inb4 someone else says it

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:03 am
by the worst
Your living buddy or A50 could have done the n1 kill