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@Ali: I'll keep my mouth shut but you should be ashamed by both thinking I'm making this up and hurting my pride in 2560

@RR: I made a mistake, the PM for the vote return was actually received just over 41 hours (not 29 as I stated before). I just didn't notice the latter had the time stamp in the pm not the am, so that's where 12 hours difference come from.

Also, shame on you too for thinking I would do this in a Varsoon game as either alignment, and even more for thinking I would suggest it was done to implicate you if I was indeed lying about it in the first place!

@OTM: THANK YOU for choosing to believe me. Now we wait for SS confirmation (or maybe RR can ask if there's a role that can steal votes tomorrow, or maybe even the vote stealer -if town- can do it to someone else .. although this might have been a spell and the card may have been discarded already)

In post 1222, baku and munna wrote:ok this is blatant OMGUS
mark you're either playing shit or are scum making disingenuous pushes
VOTE: onthemark
let's throw down

Okay, this is blatant OMGUS.
baku and munna, you're either playing shit or are scum making disingenuous pushes.

...Seriously though. This is a scumpost, through and through.

So too is this one:

In post 1223, baku and munna wrote:also chara is scum caught in a gambit
skybird is lynch bait and ico possibly is as well but i'm not sure yet

(Since I'm not giving reasons right now I should prolly have posted these in the PT but oh well. I feel like I need to publicly emphasize these ones.)

But it's nice to know people actually UNDERestimate me. Why would I even lie when the lie itself is:

1- Easily verifiable, and
2- Doesn't benefit me AT ALL, as either alignment

And it could be that my vote was stolen precisely because I wasn't active in the game yet. Maybe they wanted to catch my attention? Or maybe they intended to use my vote to their liking? Or maybe they didn't know I was going to get notified of it?? Too many maybes here.

In post 1234, Bronya Zaychik wrote:Why would MC scum have a mana requiremebt that needs town?

In post 8, Varsoon wrote:All alignments were generated AFTER roles were created.

(Yes I realize this means I should probably retract my "that seems like a scum role" stance which I've taken against Maid Cafe and Taly among others, though I'd like to note still that there are roles which have +EV for scum > +EV for town and that the method of claiming a role is rather important; the claims from Maid Cafe and Taly have not been town.)

In post 1245, Bronya Zaychik wrote:If MC had the role they described, they could have scum do it in RVS phase.

And what, pray tell, happens if we get an MC scum lynch and see how MC gained mana?

And then we see these players who seem to have gone out of their way to have done the things enabling it, almost as if there were a secret communication line in place......?

...I think my point comes across. Scum can't deliberately boost one another's mana by any significant margin because any attempt to do so privately would become obvious upon the scumflip of the player generating the mana. And mind you, there are enough players scumreading Maid Cafe that a lynch there is not at all something impossible to obtain...thus. Players generating mana for Maid Cafe with Maid Cafe not outing the method would be too incriminating to the scumteam; they would not play that way.

With the reads in the game thusfar, pretty much the only players who I'd say could realistically get away with it are Chara and Bronya Zaychik. (OnTheMark has enough scumreads where there's the potential for Mathblade to get lynched and they are a competent enough player to be aware of when that will and will not happen. Literally all my townreads are players there is enough reason to scumread that if they were scum they couldn't guarantee they get away with it. Creature people are townreading but if he is scum then he knows that his time is limited and thus that he'll die. And my scumreads are...well. Scumreads of a fairly charismatic player who pushes reads hard. And most of my scumreads are players where I am not alone; there is support behind them. Soooooooo...)

Scum can't really risk blatantly generating mana for a scumbuddy because there is no scum player who is immune to being lynched such that their mana generation method wouldn't be exposed. As a result, it's not really a viable option no matter what, CERTAINLY not for Maid Cafe.

In post 1253, Randomnamechange wrote:no bc then they have to come up with genuine defensible standpoints rather than contrived bs

Funny, that sounds a lot like what you're doing!

In post 1261, Chara wrote:i don't want you to vote me, i'm saying that you called me scum caught in a gambit, but said that Mark was either playing badly or scum. and chose to vote Mark. i think it's because half the game knows i'm obvtown.

Among the reasons the slot is scum, yes.

Btw SnarkySnowman is...well. He's him, that's who he is. And his play this game...sure is him.
If I had to assign an alignment to posts like 1273 though...it would be town.

That, by the way?

A claim I'd be more inclined to say comes from town.

I might be developing some sort of sickness (wouldn't surprise me), so I should be going to bed now.
I'll see if I can do more tomorrow, but once more, no promises. Tuesday is usually my longest day. (Guaranteed get up at six, guaranteed get home at 8, no break in between really at all. Every other day there's either a break, no guarantee, or both.)

In post 2597, OnTheMark wrote:...Again Sky didn’t out the hood
Mastina did and sky confirmed it.

So Icon is the only member who did NOT talk about it?

In post 2275, Iconeum wrote:I'm disliking the read evolution of Shining D on myself. It started with a strong townread before I even posted, and switched to scumread once I started posting. There is no indication that anything changed, and I don't believe I've done anything spectacular to make them townreading me again yet I'm way up on the readlist they posted.

There's also very little effort from Shining D in the PT to sort Sky and myself out.

VOTE: shining D

In post 2282, Iconeum wrote:Buddying Sky in PT is a big word for it. I tried to allign all of our reads and votes to see what would happen.
What I said about Shining D read evolution is my contribution to the case on the slot.

I suppose Sky could confirm what i'm saying about said evolution because that information is not available here...

Everyone did...

Please get facts straight.

Sleepy time for Mark

Ok thats a response I am happy with thank you a50

Now to get some zs
zzz

In post 1993, Shining Dreamers wrote:My partner and I have a color PT. It's a large neighborhood. She has a theory that four more PTs exist for each color.

As OTM keeps saying, yes, SD did out the neighborhood and here's the post where they did it. What I find interesting is they call it a large neighborhood. A 3 person hood isn't large IMO. Why use that as a description?

UNVOTE:

It doesn't seem like MC will be the lynch today so I'm going to focus elsewhere.

I have concerns about SD but haven't said much because I want to be sure my concerns are real and not OMGUS.

I won't be voting RR today because I need more time to sort them. I told the hood that I have a hard time reading the hydra and both heads individually. I don't want to make a hasty decision there.

On Ico, one of the reasons I felt he was trying to buddy me is he wanted the three of us in the hood to align our votes. This was pretty early in the game and I would think someone would want to make sure that we were all town before forming a voting block. I don't see anything in there trying to sort SD and mine's alignment. Ico did say he wanted it to be a consensus and not have one person dictatate the vote, but I could see scum making that statement just to seem town.

A50 that's a bad lie detect for so many reasons.... Like it's a silly thing to lie about and doesn't mean a lot to me.....

In post 2611, SnarkySnowman wrote:A50 that's a bad lie detect for so many reasons.... Like it's a silly thing to lie about and doesn't mean a lot to me.....

Why is it a bad lie detect?
Explain it to me like I am 5.

I agree it IS a silly thing to lie about but we need Alisae to move on from this so....

Hello new scum player welcome to the game!

~B

In post 2611, SnarkySnowman wrote:A50 that's a bad lie detect for so many reasons.... Like it's a silly thing to lie about and doesn't mean a lot to me.....

Has anything been said that's a good lie detect to you? Consider that the day would have easily ended before you were even around to lie detect had I not requested that things be extended/pushed for the SD lynch.

-Cerb

pedit: hai nancy!

Hi Nancy! Hello from Roundie

Iconeum, could you please explain why you didn't feel it was necessary to support your read on OTM the way you did your other reads?

-Cerb

In post 2600, Almost50 wrote:OK;

@Snarkysnowman: Please lie detect the following..

I was mod notified my vote got stolen from me, and was mod notified it was returned mire than 24 hours later

@Ali: I'll keep my mouth shut but you should be ashamed by both thinking I'm making this up and hurting my pride in 2560

@RR: I made a mistake, the PM for the vote return was actually received just over 41 hours (not 29 as I stated before). I just didn't notice the latter had the time stamp in the pm not the am, so that's where 12 hours difference come from.

Also, shame on you too for thinking I would do this in a Varsoon game as either alignment, and even more for thinking I would suggest it was done to implicate you if I was indeed lying about it in the first place!

@OTM: THANK YOU for choosing to believe me. Now we wait for SS confirmation (or maybe RR can ask if there's a role that can steal votes tomorrow, or maybe even the vote stealer -if town- can do it to someone else .. although this might have been a spell and the card may have been discarded already)

I don't think you did it to implicate me? Where did that come from? I was merely expressing the viewpoint of someone who has recently chosen to keep you from voting on D1 in a game.

-Cerb

Anyone get the feeling Snowman can’t lie detect or is a scum lie detector?

In post 2553, OnTheMark wrote:At the risk of being accused of bloating the post count I am going to try something again — being funny

Now I really want to know this Kiana. Because Titus looked at Unity and went “Nope” (excuse the paraphrase any rules lawyers and otherwise in the thread.)

Let's make like Dijkstra's and find the shortest path between you and me and a damn good joke or at least a drink while we try.

Dijkstra's algorithm may be able to find the shortest path between nodes, or perhaps the fastest way to your glasses; but, only Zaychik's algorithm can find the fastest way to scum and lynch them.

In post 2587, Shining Dreamers wrote:I'm honestly a bit of a mess right now; I feel like shit, work is utterly exhausting (because I'm working two jobs, my hours are exceeding 40/week and thus I'm working more than full time; I get up at 6 am and yet I often get home at like 8 pm having 14-hour days) to the point where I was struggling not to fall asleep behind the wheel today and even nearly had an accident (admittedly I don't think it was something not being tired woulda helped with, was trying to merge over and in spite of me looking over my shoulder somehow missed the car which was there until the horn rather rudely gave me a harsh awakening to the situation) today, so.

Oh. And also I am just. Mentally scattered. I had trouble focusing at work today, I had trouble doing anything, and honestly the absolute last thing I want to be doing right now is mafia. I just want to spend time doing games of some sort. Or maybe catch up on blogging since I still have three different rambles to ramble on. But the thing is. While I want to do those things and absolutely don't want to do mafia things. If I don't do the mafia stuff now, I know I never will, so.

I'm here, for about an hour and a half. Reminder I'm on page 46; will catch up as much as I can in that time. I'll try to keep anything I can to the PT, but no promises.

I think you spend far too much precious time on mafia because your posts are too long winded. Is this your normal posting style? My suggestion is to keep it more concise so that you can do more in less time. If I posted in walls like you I certainly would spend a lot of precious time also.

~Kiana

I wish you the best of health mastina, but game-related I still feel that the posts of your hydra feel wrong on a gut level. I am still scumreading you.

~Kiana

Link?

From what I know of Zaychik’s it only applies in business settings and has different requirements outside of mafia
#PleaseTeachMe

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... nterprises

Okay so this is actually like a mafia post what do you make of Snarky saying the A50 request is silly after asking our opinion.