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Post Post #2600 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 11:33 am

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In post 2130, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2091, mastina wrote:
In post 1719, Wisdom wrote:You mean to tell me there are
four
people who can conftown
"What the fuck is this bullshit setup, Cheet? How the fuck was I ever supposed to stand a chance?"
In post 2095, mastina wrote:
In post 2010, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2006, Sudowoodo wrote:We are a ridiculously bad vote. We have a mutually-confirming role (not Masons) with Cheeky.
So there are four masons and two people who confirm each other for a total of six conftown
ok
You know what. Fuckit.
This is scumplaining.
VOTE: Wisdom.
Now you dont like me trying to make sense of the setup
Oh trying to make sense of the setup is fine.

Trying to discredit players because them being trusted costs scum the game isn't.
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Post Post #2601 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 11:35 am

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In post 2134, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2097, mastina wrote:We win the game if we lynch exclusively within Momrangal/Wisdom/MariaR/Lady Lambdadelta/Kokichi Oma/RedFlavor.
When did Sudo become town? Youre buying into the matching role bs?
Not precisely.
Sudo became town because of a combination of their play, my feelings on the slot when looking at how others viewed the slot (taking their stances into consideration more or less and from that forming a more nuanced read), and only after both of those indicated town taking into account the matching role as an indicator of town as well.

So.

It's not one thing that makes them town.

It's everything.
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Post Post #2602 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 11:36 am

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yeah not bothering anymore
fuck you if youre town
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Post Post #2603 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 11:37 am

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In post 2143, Wisdom wrote:also im a fan of lynching dangerous scum while I still can
You are also a fan of lynching dangerous town.
In post 2149, Wisdom wrote:If they flipped red, who do you think their buddies would be?
And when they flip town, who is the scum that pushed them?
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Post Post #2604 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 11:39 am

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In post 2152, Sudowoodo wrote:Wow...it's kind of impressive how many strawman arguments Wis packed into the last two pages.
Yes indeed. There's a good reason for that!
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Post Post #2605 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 11:41 am

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I feel like there is one scum between sudowoodo and cheeky based off mechanics. Where do you stand on that
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Post Post #2606 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 11:47 am

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In post 2177, Wisdom wrote:can you please not be useless for a second
I can't complain, it's Kokichi playing to his wincon.
In post 2180, CheekyTeeky wrote:Wait why are we not lynching Koki again? Rereading his ISO makes my trigger finger itchy.
Because apparently people are morons and they (almost) all agree that there's scum in Wisdom/Maria/Kokichi but don't see ALL of them as scum, refuse to accept all of them as scum, and thus vote none of them because they think they can catch the scum outside this group even though that's impossible since there is none.
In post 2184, Sudowoodo wrote:Scumplainer Wis first, then {LLD, Kokichi, MariaR} Alisae was giving the latter two a pass when e was Mason-reading them, but that's not a thing.
Case and point, there's a need to remove LLD there but that won't happen.
In post 2185, Wisdom wrote:Cheeky do you want to compromise on Red? Ill do that if nobody else wants to vote Sudo
This is scum by the way.
In post 2195, Wisdom wrote:Who is scum mara
Poe is pointing at you rn
Help me out if youre town
Who is scum Wisdom
POE is pointing at you rn

In fact I believe it was CheekyTeeky who raised that point that your own fucking POE was self-incriminating in that the thoughts you presented had the logical conclusion of you being scum.
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Post Post #2607 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 11:49 am

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In post 2205, Momrangal wrote:I don't like how you brought up the evil twin thing and is kinda going back and forth between trying to push me and getting me to talk and open up to you
These are fine points! I'd appreciate follow-through on what the conclusion from this would be thinking about what alignment makes the most sense doing them.
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Post Post #2608 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 11:54 am

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I've said who is scum and why my PoE is what it is but of course you're skipping over that part
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Post Post #2609 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 11:55 am

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In post 2224, beeboy wrote:I have a lot of trouble believing this game has 6 confirmed towns btw.
So?
Ignore the conftown, focus on the town.

CheekyTeeky rings townbells even without a claim that I buy is more likely to be a townclaim.
Sudowoodo rings enough townbells even without a claim that I buy they're more likely to be a townclaim.
I don't care about a mason claim from you and Lovebird you two are town anyway.
And Nico would be solidly town even if she wasn't my mason partner.

I mean, to be honest, haven't given much thought to my own play and whether I'd be obvtown or not, but that's still at minimum five town names without claims.

Crossreference with Momrangal who is fairly town and Momomen who bleeds town and LLD who is more likely town for many of the reasons presented, and you've got 9/13.

Again.
Leaving RedFlavor, MariaR, Kokichi Oma, and Wisdom.

One of these names is not like the others.

So it should be no wonder why my lynchlist is what it is.
MariaR, Kokichi Oma, and Wisdom are in the POE pool.
They furthermore have a shitload of scum content, with clear scum motivations, a traceable scum mindset, with actions that are visible scum-oriented in that they further the scum wincon to do.

That's why they should be lynched.
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Post Post #2610 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 11:58 am

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In post 2609, mastina wrote:They furthermore have a shitload of town content, with clear town motivations, a traceable town mindset, with actions that are visible town-oriented in that they further the town wincon to do.
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Post Post #2611 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 11:59 am

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If at any point it turns out mastina is not a mason dont fucking dare to let her reach lylo
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Post Post #2612 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 12:00 pm

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like this is typical scumposting only wrapped in a mason claim
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Post Post #2613 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 12:00 pm

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In post 2241, Cheetory6 wrote:
Momrangal [2]
- RedFlavor, MariaR
Lady LambdaDelta [1]
- Kokichi Oma
RedFlavor [5]
- Momrangal, Lady LambdaDelta, beeboy, Wisdom, CheekyTeeky
Sudowoodo [2]
- MOMOMEN, Lovebird
Wisdom [3]
- NicoRobin, mastina, Sudowoodo
When you see RedFlavor flip town, this will be a fine wagon to demonstrate precisely why you powerfuckinglynch Wisdom.
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Post Post #2614 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 12:02 pm

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mastina who is scum when you see me flip town?
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Post Post #2615 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 12:03 pm

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In post 2250, MOMOMEN wrote:Fine.
VOTE: ...MOMRANGAL
When you learn that all these juicy counterwagons you keep pursuing are just town shinies distracting you from lynching the fucking scum.

I'll be here.

Waiting.

But until then have fun, go ahead, helps sort town I guess. Just don't expect to hit scum that way.
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Post Post #2616 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 12:05 pm

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In post 2266, Wisdom wrote:Cheeky i don't think kokichi is scum
Youre probably turned off by his playstyle as it usually happens
As someone who has played with Kokichi.

I can tell the fucking difference.

This is Kokichi Oma as scum. Solidly, THOROUGHLY, his scumplay. Through and through.

And yes I have the fucking experience to back that up. This is how he plays as scum; this is absolutely nothing like how he plays as town.
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Post Post #2617 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 12:06 pm

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In post 2267, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1504, Wisdom wrote: I don't think scum-Kokichi threatens to replace out and then selfvotes on top of it
Maybe one of the two, but a scum that uses those as weapons most likely thinks using two one after another is too much and doesn't do it
This is why I have a townlean on him
Yeah and this reasoning is absolute ass and you would fucking know better than this if you were town.
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Post Post #2618 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 12:07 pm

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I want to see how you'll apologize for all this bs when you see my flip
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Post Post #2619 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 12:08 pm

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In post 2276, Wisdom wrote:And as for Kokichi, how is this not his town game? He's as useless as he always is D1
Except no.

Kokichi was anything but useless.

Quite the opposite in fact.

That's one of the first fucking things I noticed. "Oh, Kokichi's posting content. Yep, scum." Literally the first thing I noticed, why I instantly named him as the third scum.
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Post Post #2620 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 12:08 pm

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In post 2614, Wisdom wrote:mastina who is scum when you see me flip town?
If you read her posts instead of being reactive you'd see it would be Red, Koki, Maria via PoE.
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Post Post #2621 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 12:10 pm

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well i agree with red/maria at least
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Post Post #2622 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 12:10 pm

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Yay mastina is finally pushing the same agenda as me. I'm slightly concerned lol.
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Post Post #2623 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 12:11 pm

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and really youre gonna criticize me here? i want to see you being unreasonably and unstoppably tunneled by someone you were looking forward to play with
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Post Post #2624 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2018 12:11 pm

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In post 2618, Wisdom wrote:I want to see how you'll apologize for all this bs when you see my flip
Nobody is gonna apologize to you unless you apologize to others yourself.
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