Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:09 am
Mate i do not plan on giving up
God that fucking "Gamma is town" post lmao fuck me
God that fucking "Gamma is town" post lmao fuck me
Look back at his answer wrt mass claim and GamaIn post 2601, Datisi wrote:What's the case on DW?
Its not much but it feels wrongIn post 2549, DogWatch wrote:I mean I’m more interested in lynching gamma than anyone else but it’s possible that a massclaim could change that. I don’t know if I’m willing to gambit on it. But I feel like you’re probably right that he’s eventually lynched regardless.
Scum would come into today leaving my slot open as potential mislynchIn post 2604, Datisi wrote:Actually can you give me a tl;dr on town!Amrun
can you go through (again? I can't remember if you explained already) your datisi read?In post 2509, Amrun wrote:PoE. I mean, outside chance or DogWatch/alum/gamma but I just don’t think so.In post 2485, Datisi wrote:Why does it have to be one of us fypov and what exactly makes you think we're not possible partners?In post 2484, Amrun wrote:Datisi is very likely scum out of the pool we have left. FMPOV it has to be you or datisi.
and also your proposed massclaim order?
And I guess my order would be Gamma - Datisi - alimdia - Menalque - DogWatch - Iconeum - myself
Day 1 I felt like you were soft pushing DDL. You were hard pushing me, but dropped it - still don’t know if you TR me or what. You kinda sorta SR Ico but haven’t pushed it at all. I don’t have a sense of strong reads from you in general and that worries me.In post 2486, Menalque wrote:I mean you're not wrong that those are NKs that I think could come from scum!me
not commenting on the gun point until we figure out an order for massclaim
what makes you question my commitment to the lynches I've pushed?
and what were the reasons you had me as town?
I had you town from you tinfoiling people TR you for your “slip.” That seemed genuinely paranoid to me. Meh.
@alimdiah: I have explained my Ico TR several times now so I won’t re-invent the wheel. However, to add to it, the way he came into today treating my slot is not what I would see scum doing because I see myself as a mislynchable slot right now. Which is exactly why your soft SR on me and the way you went about it is scummy.
strong +1In post 2523, alimdia wrote:I mean GA should give reads first otherwise he can just make anyone popcorn claim next without needing to give a proper reason
what makes me "setting up a lynch" vs not trusting icon and wanting to make sure he gets proper scrutiny? I don't think I've said at all that icon should be the lynch todayIn post 2524, Amrun wrote:Menalque kindaIn post 2516, alimdia wrote:Also... is there anyone that is like... setting up on a lynch on Icon? I don't see anyone doing it?
I mean I'm not saying gamma has not been terrible here, but I'm saying I think being terrible is more likely to come from town when potentially all scum has to do here is look townier than the next person and the game is donezoIn post 2540, Datisi wrote:because it's worked so far?
we can go at a different angle. Town!Gamma knows (1) that he's by far the most likely mislynch today and (2) that mislynching him today loses him the game. why does he enter, do fuck all, and call out mass claiming after literally having it yesterday?
the point is if someone is pushing conf!town hard as being super scummy then seeing how they reevaluate in the light of that person being conf!town will be very AI for that personIn post 2542, alimdia wrote:um.. being wrong or pushing conftown before they're conftown does not mean they are scum.In post 2522, Menalque wrote:I also don't actually think we should be claiming yet bc people should be reevaluating prior to massclaim, even if we do need to massclaim soon
partly because scum is more easily caught here if they do something like push the gun really hard as scum only to then realise they're dealing with conftown
Ikr. Gamma slot is hella frustating. See this:In post 2533, Datisi wrote:I'm more concerned about your lack of addressal of *everything else*.
In post 2517, alimdia wrote:Pretty sure everyone is like 'yea gamma', which is worrying because he's either being dragged as a mislynch or actually scum and his buddies are getting credit while simultaneously spreading fear about gamma being a mislynch bait.
okay this makes me very uncomfortableIn post 2543, Datisi wrote:like iwas genuinely gonna ask if we should skip massclaim and just lynch Gamma, because if he's Zown we probably just lose at some point anyway so might as well end it right now and save everyone's time, and if he's scum then we're outing the conftown today and they're getting shot tonght, and having them at 5p lylo would probably be better than 7p
whyIn post 2611, Menalque wrote:I mean I'm not saying gamma has not been terrible here, but I'm sayingI think being terrible is more likely to come from townwhen potentially all scum has to do here is look townier than the next person and the game is donezo
like there's a reason why I'm not saying "oh yeah we should locktown gamma based on this" I'm saying "this is making me worried that gamma is still here as the default lynch and that combined with his entrance makes me nervous about rushing in on him"
because of the second part of that sentence?In post 2614, Datisi wrote:whyIn post 2611, Menalque wrote:I mean I'm not saying gamma has not been terrible here, but I'm sayingI think being terrible is more likely to come from townwhen potentially all scum has to do here is look townier than the next person and the game is donezo
like there's a reason why I'm not saying "oh yeah we should locktown gamma based on this" I'm saying "this is making me worried that gamma is still here as the default lynch and that combined with his entrance makes me nervous about rushing in on him"
can you talk more about why this is?In post 2546, Amrun wrote:I’d actually rather lynch datisi today I think. Shocking, I know.
lmao whatIn post 2556, Iconeum wrote:Menl is openwolfing here wtf
lmao WHATIn post 2560, Iconeum wrote:In short menal is now going against open claiming without good reason and calling gamma, the widest scum read slot, as town zithout explaining
He's not playing to a town wincon here
ok but Gamma hasn't just suddenly started acting like this, he's been like this the whole gameIn post 2616, Menalque wrote:because of the second part of that sentence?In post 2614, Datisi wrote:whyIn post 2611, Menalque wrote:I mean I'm not saying gamma has not been terrible here, but I'm sayingI think being terrible is more likely to come from townwhen potentially all scum has to do here is look townier than the next person and the game is donezo
like there's a reason why I'm not saying "oh yeah we should locktown gamma based on this" I'm saying "this is making me worried that gamma is still here as the default lynch and that combined with his entrance makes me nervous about rushing in on him"
I think town!gamma is slightly more likely to be defeatist here than scum!gamma
all scum!gamma needs to do is to try and be a little bit less scummy than the next person to win
whereas town!gamma who wouldn't know who scum is would have to effort only to potentially shift the lynch onto another town and lose anyway
okay but I'm weighting having a higher percentage chance here in 7p as more valuable than having it in 5pIn post 2620, Datisi wrote:nope
first scenario is 0.6*0.5 = 0.3 = 30% of making it to 3p lylo
second is 0.66*0.5 = 0.33 = 33% of making it to 3p lylo
because we all gotta get it right both times
if we ignore any possible 1v1s
pedit: jfc can you SLOW DOWN