In post 567, springlullaby wrote:OK, stop. HAVE YOU READ THAT DENYING THE QUIZ TEAM IS AN AUTOMATIC ADVANTAGE FOR SCUM?
Can you ask if denying 3 times is an advantage for scum?
Instead of just once.
I think it's 3 denies. But just passing the team is the straight way to do it. I want no wiggle room for scum to automatically gain an advantage, instead of being forced to at least PoE if they want to fail the quiz.
So as you know, I'm the chainleader, and I'm also responsible of nominating a quiz team.
Here what I know about the team:
1) The quiz team size for tonight is 5 players.
2) All players on the quiz team get to pass or fail the quiz, by PM to the mod.
3) If the quiz is passed, town gain a unspecified advantage.
4) If the quiz is failed, scum gain a unspecified advantage.
5) All quiz team member must pass the quiz, for the quiz to be passed.
6) If no quiz team can be formed, scum gain an unspecified advantage.
> Given the above, there is zero advantage in veto-ing the quiz team since:
a) scum automatically gain an advantage anyway
b) quiz team failing or passing the quiz serves as PoE.
A) Quiz team members have the additional task of selecting the next chain leader by vote.
B) The next chain leader can be selected outside of the quiz team.
> Given all of the above, I'd like to take care of forming the quiz team first.
NOMINATE QUIZ TEAM:
1. Springlullaby
2. farside
3. Starbuck
4. Raya
5. Dunnstral
> Also, I will personally vote to nominate beeboy as the next chain leader.
Please vote to approve the quiz team.
This is all spring day 1 on her reasons and thought for the quiz.
She is now against it.
If she thinks scum is on it wouldn't it benefit her read on sb or me or raya or anyone she suspects? So why is she against it.
Do you even read the thread? Or are you just trying to find angles to attack me?
I explicitly said if there was consensus on PoE, i'd approve of the team straight away.
BUT since there seems there isn't, I'm not getting framed for voting in scum.
In post 2589, springlullaby wrote:I explicitly said if there was consensus on PoE, i'd approve of the team straight away.
BUT since there seems there isn't, I'm not getting framed for voting in scum.
You'd only be "framed" if the team would actually pass the quiz, which you seem to know they would.
You also stated when this quiz gets voted down.
The simplest explanation is that you're scrambling for a defense, preemptively.
...No, I'm defending myself from the QT failing, and people framing me for voting in scum
What the fuck.
Who said they were framing you for voting scum into the team?
All I said is that you stated day 1 it was a good way to scum hunt and that it give POE. I also just said that if you think sb, me or raya are scum and it fails that would make it seem like you were cleared.
Why did you avoid that altogether?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:08 pm
by Starbuck
PB ISO Part 1, Go Gadget Go
In post 751, Pink Ball wrote:My ideal quiz team would be SirCakez, spring, unwnd, starbuck and Dunn
This is the quiz team that you proposed on Day 1. Has this changed at all to now? Obviously, SirCakez is gone and we only have 4 slots.
At this point, you were calling out both Raya and Dunn as scum, but I believe your read on Raya changed. What caused the change on Raya? I remember you and beeboy getting pretty up in arms about the universal townread on her. What's your position on Dunn now?
In post 1347, Pink Ball wrote:@spring, unwnd is town if midwaybear is scum. SirCakez is scum if midwaybear is scum. I'm saving unwnd.
I'd be interested to hear the reasoning behind this. I scumread midwaybear and unwnd and I want to see where I'm wrong if I am.
Read midwaybear's ISO, he's clearly following an agenda and trying to get unwnd lynched and protect SirCakez.
If I'm right, I'm pretty sure the scumteam is midwaybear+Dunnstral+SirCakez
Alright, I'll take a look
To follow up on this I also noticed that midway never actually mentioned cakez until the chain started moving and in that first mention he suddenly had a town read on him even though it was never mentioned before.
And he gave the chain to Dunn when he NEVER mentioned Dunn before and was saying he would give Starbuck the chain, like a lot. He jumped on me when I called Dunn scum, he's been softly protecting SirCakez when nobody's asking him too.
Are you still feeling this way about midway?
The one thing that concerns me is that you felt like you were saving SirCakez and killing Unwnd at the end of Day 1. I've been so focused on the rabbit holes with spring that I forgot about this. Do you have an explanation or were you just fucking with SirCakez?
In post 2572, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I really want someone to link me Farside’s Town game in case they are just normally Anti-Town and I’m just looking at them wrong.
Do you remember how you felt about Chemist in T v A?
Since your sharing thing. Can you walk me through any reason to town read TSE. All i see is yelling, making false accusations and running a player into the ground with that player being scum regardless what they say.
He did the same thing to Chemist in T v A.
I'll look into it, but I haven't had the best luck looking at someone elses game and seeing clearly there play in the game I'm in.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:10 pm
by Starbuck
In post 2592, springlullaby wrote:I don't care whether you have the chain or not, I just state my reads. How is that even scummy may I ask?
Are you really that over the top OMGUS?
No, but I figured you would be pushing for the next person down on your scum list since I can't be lynched today. I do believe that you can multitask. Still hold me as your top scum read and push for your secondary.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:11 pm
by Starbuck
In post 2592, springlullaby wrote:In post 2588, Starbuck wrote:
You haven't voted for ANY of the quiz teams so far, so it doesn't matter.
Irrevelant.
It's not irrelevant. You can't sit there as chain leader on Day 1 and be all "there's no reason for town not to vote for the quizzes" and not vote for them yourself.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:12 pm
by springlullaby
In post 2600, farside22 wrote:
Who said they were framing you for voting scum into the team?
All I said is that you stated day 1 it was a good way to scum hunt and that it give POE. I also just said that if you think sb, me or raya are scum and it fails that would make it seem like you were cleared.
Why did you avoid that altogether?
I preventing that framing from coming into existence?
I don't care being cleared? I rather see the quiz pass?
Especially since we don't even get PoE in case of fail?
How is that even a town line of questioning.
Well, since you can all caps ALL, you may want to specify all occurences.
Literally every time you talk to me. Everything is blown up like the damn Hiroshima bomb. From the Quiz PT last night to any interaction today. You are over the top and overreacting and freaking out.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:13 pm
by springlullaby
In post 2603, Starbuck wrote:No, but I figured you would be pushing for the next person down on your scum list since I can't be lynched today. I do believe that you can multitask. Still hold me as your top scum read and push for your secondary.
Absolutely false, scum.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:13 pm
by Starbuck
In post 2593, Titus wrote:The simplest explanation is that you're scrambling for a defense, preemptively.
+1
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:14 pm
by springlullaby
In post 2604, Starbuck wrote:It's not irrelevant. You can't sit there as chain leader on Day 1 and be all "there's no reason for town not to vote for the quizzes" and not vote for them yourself.
Did my team pass? How is my voting for it or not relevant? Scum.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:14 pm
by farside22
Am I crazy to think that spring seems to be weird for thinking she looks scummy for suggesting a team that may have had scum on it?
No one even suggested that today.
EBWOF: Okay so SL is preemptively saying something not in facts and changing her views 180 degrees from day 1.
Good to know.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:14 pm
by springlullaby
In post 2606, Starbuck wrote:Literally every time you talk to me. Everything is blown up like the damn Hiroshima bomb. From the Quiz PT last night to any interaction today. You are over the top and overreacting and freaking out.
And yet you can specify a single occurrence. Scum.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:19 pm
by springlullaby
In post 2610, farside22 wrote:Am I crazy to think that spring seems to be weird for thinking she looks scummy for suggesting a team that may have had scum on it?
No one even suggested that today.
EBWOF: Okay so SL is preemptively saying something not in facts and changing her views 180 degrees from day 1.
Good to know.
Lol. Just repeating something won't make it true.
Last time:
> I did not change my view.
> Not everyone agreed with the PoE. Read the thread.
> I therefore am simply preventing scum onto the quiz.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:21 pm
by springlullaby
Why are you so hell bent on being in the quiz all three of you btw?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:23 pm
by springlullaby
I'm now 100% against that team because even if there is town in it is bad town.
There's no way unwnd knew about the mechanics for how lazy he has been
OH DUH. I see what you did. I should have kept re-reading.
In post 1797, Pink Ball wrote:@spring I don't want to talk about comunication with the mod, but when I answered the PM I confirmed my role and said "I'll read the ruleset asap, let's goooo" 'cause I didn't know it was part of the confirmation. Never had to do that in a game before.
She brought this up in the Quiz PT trying to discredit you as part of her scum read and it was all sorts of weird.
And getting into your back and forth with her RE: ad hom, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that she's accusing when she's doing plenty of it herself.
In post 1998, beeboy wrote:PB is in meh pile and not town anymore because his reaction test yesterday felt fake and I feel like he is falling back into the background while the chaos unloads on the town.
I'm falling back into the background because of spring, sorry
Oh hey, welcome to my world. Sorry you got caught up in that.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:30 pm
by springlullaby
Yeah true. I'm just annoyed at the bullshit.
I think there is scum on it too though.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:31 pm
by Titus
Starbuck, I hate to ask but with the scum, TSE and Pink Ball being the remaining people, can I have the chain?
In post 2606, Starbuck wrote:Literally every time you talk to me. Everything is blown up like the damn Hiroshima bomb. From the Quiz PT last night to any interaction today. You are over the top and overreacting and freaking out.
And yet you can specify a single occurrence. Scum.
Because I'm re-reading PB in ISO right now and trying to figure out what I'd like to do with the chain, rather than argue with you and clog up the thread because you can't seem to talk to anyone with any kind of cordiality.
In any case
- you overreacting about me thinking being revealed as chain leader was entertaining
- you accusing me of ad hom every time you talk to me
- being on the hyperdefensive nearly every time I've put anything towards you since the Quiz PT last night (not to mention the way you've been speaking to our other players)
- stating I'm toxic because I'm replying to you in a game where we fake kill people
- your overuse of AtE for those last 3
- freaking out about being framed if you approve any of today's quiz teams
- spiraling down rabbit holes rather than working out a plan with the rest of us that might work
I could go on, but I have other stuff to read besides the same lazy and overreactive case that you think you have on me.