Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:03 am
We could always eliminate you today and have you hang around as a stump.
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:04 am
I miss gamma.
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:08 am
Even though i feel like he would thumbs down me for misreading him. 
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:17 am
Why do you say this?In post 2595, Isis wrote:I wish I had any chance of being excused from f3
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:24 am
because it will be hard to decide who to vote for
not because I'm worried about being a mischop. I probably should be worried but that's more out of my control and not as stressy
not because I'm worried about being a mischop. I probably should be worried but that's more out of my control and not as stressy
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:46 am
All right, let's ask it this way:
Why do you think there will be an F3 at all?
Why do you think there will be an F3 at all?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:58 am
I'm not that confident GuiltyLion is scum
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:09 am
I thought you were using F3 to mean Final 3 - were you just using it as a synonym for ELo?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:25 am
i'm still thinking like the scum will ignite tonight
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:35 am
Poor little assumptions. I had such hopes for them. And then you broke them.
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:40 am
I finally skimmed a little of SIN and Bell's interactions with his partner seems like a carbon copy to here. Saying his target was very scummy, yet also going out of the way to mention the possibility of a townslip, and never directly interacting with the player in question.
If Ydrasse told clidd pregame that she doesn't mind bussing that'd be viewable and I could see Bell inheriting the guidance after it clashed with clidd's style and he declined it.
If Ydrasse told clidd pregame that she doesn't mind bussing that'd be viewable and I could see Bell inheriting the guidance after it clashed with clidd's style and he declined it.
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:56 am
Nice, so I'm not crazy then.
Bell, would you say that's an accurate representation of what you did that game?
Bell, would you say that's an accurate representation of what you did that game?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:57 am
*townflip, not townslip
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:01 am
Did he follow through with the bus till the end, or lay off?
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:08 am
Bell you bussed both of your partners simultaneously in SIN
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:21 am
I didn't read to the end
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:25 am
Okay, so I read through it myself and Bell pushed both of his partners (Starbuck and Porkens), but then got martyred killed before the end of the day so it's unclear whether or not he would've followed through with it if they got close to being launched.
BUT THEN, I read through the scum PT, aaand:
Subject: [Demon]Mini Theme 2155: SIN: This Impurity must be Cleansed!
VOTE: Bell
I should stop letting myself be convinced off of my tunnels.
BUT THEN, I read through the scum PT, aaand:
Subject: [Demon]Mini Theme 2155: SIN: This Impurity must be Cleansed!
Subject: [Demon]Mini Theme 2155: SIN: This Impurity must be Cleansed!Bell wrote:I think I kind of put you too much on the grill there.
How do you prefer to play with your mafia partners?
Subject: [Demon]Mini Theme 2155: SIN: This Impurity must be Cleansed!Bell wrote:^don’t respond to this. I’m not the elimination today. We can discuss it later tonight.
For now focus on surviving.
The third post is especially damning. What he said he planned to do there is what he's done with Ydrasse here.Bell wrote:I wouldn't scum read you, but I might pretend too, to get a better read on you via pressure.
will do.
VOTE: Bell
I should stop letting myself be convinced off of my tunnels.
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:43 am
In post 2285, Bell wrote:There are a lot of attempts to discuss and engage. To make sure I didn’t do something they wouldn’t respond well to.
I even messed up a little on starbuck by questioning them and it made them look mildly scummy.
In the PT I need to mention there are two posts out of context that will lead to a visceral reaction.
But I need to be clear there, both of those don’t apply to this game because, not scum reading them would have gone against the flow of the game. Whereas here I went counter to it.
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:45 am
That insistence on communicating preferences is literally the reason I wouldn’t bus my partner without chatting first. And I wouldn’t honor a previous conversation because I don’t have a scum pt. 
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:48 am
Already stated I wasn’t bus averse.
You’re the second person to ignore this. .-.
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:49 am
Looking at that first quote.
Timestamp there by my time zone: 7/31 7:37 PM. Context appears to be referring to Starbuck.
Bell replaces in.
Requests a prod of Starbuck (and two others).
Nullreads Starbuck.
It's got to refer to posts 698-706, as those are the only posts where Bell interacts with Starbuck in the main thread that happens before the first quote above. Bell's asking questions, but "grill" seems too ... antagonistic? pressure-y? to describe the tone of the interaction.
Timestamp there by my time zone: 7/31 7:37 PM. Context appears to be referring to Starbuck.
Bell replaces in.
Requests a prod of Starbuck (and two others).
Nullreads Starbuck.
It's got to refer to posts 698-706, as those are the only posts where Bell interacts with Starbuck in the main thread that happens before the first quote above. Bell's asking questions, but "grill" seems too ... antagonistic? pressure-y? to describe the tone of the interaction.
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:50 am
A reminder that I brought up my meta myself hoping that explaining the nuance of my play here in contrast to my play there would make it more clear why i couldn't be scum.
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:50 am
That at least makes me think that Bell believes in handling his partners with kid gloves before assessing them is the right thing to do, and deviated from that ideal while playing.
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:03 pm
Second quote I don't see as indicative of much of anything.
Third quote: establishes that Bell was telling the truth about the meta. Didn't start busing until D2 - when he had Porkens's blessing to do so.
I don't see *permission* from Starbuck, but I do see a warning about it.
That leaves us with "changed his mind on how to play scum between last game and this game," ...
wait a minute. Checking something ...
Or possibility #3: Bell is Town, and telling the truth.
Third quote: establishes that Bell was telling the truth about the meta. Didn't start busing until D2 - when he had Porkens's blessing to do so.
I don't see *permission* from Starbuck, but I do see a warning about it.
That leaves us with "changed his mind on how to play scum between last game and this game," ...
wait a minute. Checking something ...
This was possibility #2. Nitpick - Bell replaced Pine, not clidd. So it'd require Ydrasse and Pine having that conversation during pre-game. Pine barely interacted in this game at all, so I'd be questioning any sort of major tactical formation that could have happened during pre-game. Unlikely, I think.In post 2610, Isis wrote:I finally skimmed a little of SIN and Bell's interactions with his partner seems like a carbon copy to here. Saying his target was very scummy, yet also going out of the way to mention the possibility of a townslip, and never directly interacting with the player in question.
If Ydrasse told clidd pregame that she doesn't mind bussing that'd be viewable and I could see Bell inheriting the guidance after it clashed with clidd's style and he declined it.
Or possibility #3: Bell is Town, and telling the truth.
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:11 pm
Tea leaves replaced Clidd. Though, that’s interesting.In post 2610, Isis wrote:I finally skimmed a little of SIN and Bell's interactions with his partner seems like a carbon copy to here. Saying his target was very scummy, yet also going out of the way to mention the possibility of a townslip, and never directly interacting with the player in question.
If Ydrasse told clidd pregame that she doesn't mind bussing that'd be viewable and I could see Bell inheriting the guidance after it clashed with clidd's style and he declined it.
I disagree that it is a carbon copy. For one, I did not mention Porkens town slipping nor did I imply ydrasse did either. I argued that there was an alternative explanation for Porkens behavior such that he could be town.
Pedit: heh.