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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:00 am
by Hopkirk
Until now MT has been in the same place in my readlists I had most of the scum in Death Curse (3/5 of them, light null townread that I can't explain in a way that makes me happy with it.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:00 am
by Morning Tweet
In post 2592, Hopkirk wrote:I don't get how MT sees a wagon with Skitter30/Dunn/Gyp on it after saying she doesn't like those three (plus a weak townread, Isis) and says to herself 'yes, i'd prefer to join that wagon than the one all of my townreads are pushing'. Like how can you claim to be a POE player then go for a wagon
every single one of your scumreads wants
...sudden and temporary bout of insanity?
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:02 am
by Hopkirk
three/seven people who voted me are blaming their votes on insanity
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:03 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2598, Hopkirk wrote:'the game stalled' as a thought really doesn't logically lead 'the person who got wagoned in part for inactivity is town'.
Either mafia are intentionally stalling (and not being here becomes a major sus) or mafia are happy with the gamestate (Skitter30/Hop being the two biggest wagons for a while) are the two most obvious ways to explain that gamestate. Not voting Gyp there kind of resembles her stance around Dunn/TGP in a weird way.
Yeah, I’m definitely paranoing on MT now. She pretty much comes in at the last minute to vote you, like she was maybe hoping she wouldn’t have to vote?
This is why my Ydrasse read has stayed constant. Her activity level hasn’t changed, where as MT’s has.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:04 am
by Infinity 324
But ydrasse has gotten less active? Especially in the middle there.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:05 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2602, Hopkirk wrote:three/seven people who voted me are blaming their votes on insanity
Like I actually believe Pooky misread you but MT’s answer seems to be coming out of nowhere.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:05 am
by Morning Tweet
In post 2602, Hopkirk wrote:three/seven people who voted me are blaming their votes on insanity :lol:
hey i tried (≧∀≦)
I do love you Hop
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:06 am
by Infinity 324
Who’s scum tweet?
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:07 am
by Gloria Cleary
I think it’s timing and she was clearly opposed to Hopkirk wagon.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:07 am
by Hopkirk
In post 1249, Morning Tweet wrote: In post 1121, Hopkirk wrote:I don't get TGP's defense of gypyx in 725, but I kind of liked TGP in it. Will be interesting to see why he's such a big wagon right now.
I didn't like any of Skitter30's posting on this page and am especially curious on this. I don't get pushing this association.
this is my interpretation of the TGP-gypyx interacton. I also agree that the TGP/Gypx partner idea doesn't make sense.
In post 1250, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1131, Hopkirk wrote:(Dunn/Skitter30/Gypyx/Jessie) is the people I don't have good vibes on.
It's also to some extent concerning overlapping with people not approaching the game in a certain way.
TGP isn't really a
townread
but I initially got bad vibes from, there's a couple of things that seem weird from scum, and my POE hates them, so they get townpoints for that.
This is a really good list, except i townread jessie
Gloria and Jessie im strongest on. Infinity is close to them. and below them, hopkirk + Pooky + Isis + Flea i've all gotten townleans on.
leaving ydrasse, golden, skitts, dunn, and gypx. Ydrasse and Golden i have weak reasoning for. The other three i just don't have an opinion on. I think Gypx's behaviour is sort of weird for scum but ive seen scum do it too. Skitts (along with Isis) in their sort of 1v1 i just have been glossing over after initially disagreeing with what i saw. I'm not confident in my ability to read skitts without associative information. Dunn is playing like he did in forest fire and silent star 1.. which unfortunately i took to be as a scumtell in Forest fire and miselimed him (or tried to anyway). i think I know what to watch out for to learn his alignment
In post 1500, Morning Tweet wrote:
if you're arguing that Dunn is a partner of Golden then why are you flipping Dunn first? i'm pretty sure that's what he's getting at and that's largely what is losing me here
I am just completely lost at how no one interpreted it that way which leads me to believe im missing something but i can't delve rn
In post 1509, Morning Tweet wrote: In post 1504, Gloria Cleary wrote: In post 1500, Morning Tweet wrote:if you're arguing that Dunn is a partner of Golden then why are you flipping Dunn first? i'm pretty sure that's what he's getting at and that's largely what is losing me here
I am just completely lost at how no one interpreted it that way which leads me to believe im missing something but i can't delve rn
You don’t think it logical to prefer to flip the one you find scummier first, why?
that was more referring to Pooky and whoever else is arguing that Golden and Dunn are together, which i thought you were
As for you specifically, your point against Dunn seems to be his read progression on Pooky. you keep referencing
1461 but i'm totally missing where he townreads Pooky there
I think Dunn might still be scum outside of this but i fail to see what you're seeing (aside from calling Isis sweaty, which hurts my feelings vicariously). But like so many people are seeing it when im not so im worried im just not seeing right
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:08 am
by Hopkirk
your progression on Dunn/TGP is almost (not quite but almost) as weird. You seem to be townreading TGP and scumreading Dunn up to the point you vote TGP
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:10 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2499, Morning Tweet wrote:Is it possible that other town knows something I dont? There is probably very few scum if my reads are right, and it would make sense with the way the thread generally feels
But everyone's VT.. -- does that restrict other information being given? is it a total coincidence the only thing Golden did was defend Gypyx and now the only person who gains votes is Gypyx? am I losing my mind here
I dont know, i suppose i would be really surprised if Gypyx is scum that gets a hard towncase from the flipped townie and has everything going for him, then ghosts out of the game completely for some reason. and then
he's the only one who amassed a real wagon
But that isn’t true. Hopkirk was the counterwagon.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:10 am
by Hopkirk
nvm this was after deadline
but not being on Dunn was weird given that was the competing wagon and they had a clear stated preference for voting Dunn, were on a vanity wagon, and low key argued against a Dunn vote > a TGP vote in one of the posts i quoted above
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:11 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2601, Morning Tweet wrote: In post 2592, Hopkirk wrote:I don't get how MT sees a wagon with Skitter30/Dunn/Gyp on it after saying she doesn't like those three (plus a weak townread, Isis) and says to herself 'yes, i'd prefer to join that wagon than the one all of my townreads are pushing'. Like how can you claim to be a POE player then go for a wagon
every single one of your scumreads wants
...sudden and temporary bout of insanity?
Is this your typical reaction when you think you’ve miselimed someone?
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:16 am
by Hopkirk
MT's vote doesn't feel like someone who's been absent from the thread for several days, I assume has read up, and feels they're in danger of a nightkill that'll silence their chance to update people on their reads/POE.
Like if you haven't posted for a while, presumably have thoughts/an updated POE, do you just put down the vote then go offline until after deadline? Either MT didn't fully catch up (scum QT helped?), didn't have time to do it (the town MT scenario) or put down a vote without their reads changing which hardcore doesn't gel with their previous reads.
I can see either opportunistic scum, or scum who forgot they were supposed to have a TR on me, or scum trying to save a partner.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:16 am
by Hopkirk
^ puts vote down then doesn't return until after deadline that is.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:17 am
by Hopkirk
i should do other stuff now, so have fun and listen to Gloria.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:17 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2610, Hopkirk wrote:your progression on Dunn/TGP is almost (not quite but almost) as weird. You seem to be townreading TGP and scumreading Dunn up to the point you vote TGP
Her reaction to her voting you is hella strange. Like contrast it with Pooky’s who actually sounds like he’s regretting his vote. MT doesn’t seem to be particularly upset. I was very upset when I saw the TGP flip, so her reaction to you post-hammer is seriously weird coming from town.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:19 am
by Hopkirk
MT is probably my top pick for scum after this tbh.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:21 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2614, Hopkirk wrote:MT's vote doesn't feel like someone who's been absent from the thread for several days, I assume has read up, and feels they're in danger of a nightkill that'll silence their chance to update people on their reads/POE.
Like if you haven't posted for a while, presumably have thoughts/an updated POE, do you just put down the vote then go offline until after deadline? Either MT didn't fully catch up (scum QT helped?), didn't have time to do it (the town MT scenario) or put down a vote without their reads changing which hardcore doesn't gel with their previous reads.
I can see either opportunistic scum, or scum who forgot they were supposed to have a TR on me, or scum trying to save a partner.
Yeah, I’m currently leaning scum bat. But it definitely looks like she was trying to save Gypyx for whatever reason. Her reaction to you post-hammer isn’t townie.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:23 am
by Gloria Cleary
Yes and my all VT theory is completely shot to bits now.
If I don’t get NK’d pretty sure that where I’ll be voting tomorrow.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:25 am
by Morning Tweet
i don't really have any excuse for this -- i was swamped with classwork, yes, but i still had opportunities to play that i just didn't take. I ended up seriously not enjoying this game. Which sucks considering i love everyone here
and of course, i love you Hop
sigh
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:26 am
by Morning Tweet
this guy seriously keeps me going
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:26 am
by Hopkirk
I fake-soft claimed tracker before i realized this was all vanilla.
It definitely wasn't going to be all vanilla, but if it was something like 'the first two eliminated get to recruit scum and become aligned with scum' that'd be a fun setup tbh.
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:27 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
*flops tweeties ears*
its ok if you're red hun you can just do that blinking thing
