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In post 2434, Double the Trouble wrote:

In post 2432, pichu wrote:BM hasn't been miselimmed for ages apparently so he has selfish interests in being survivalistic

Take a look from his perspective. If it helps with getting scum!me eliminated tommorow why would he care that much about being limmed first? Unless he knows he is flipping red.

- Norwee

Norwee I'm clearly not, and never have been, sufficiently certain you're scum that I think a 1v1 with you is a protown move. I'm only doing that with a super solid read, or a mech guilty. I think you are just being overly sensitive about the fact I think your slot is scummy. It doesn't mean I'm a moron who is gonna pretend you're lockscum and tunnel you until one of us dies.

I know you don't rate my game much, but as we've discussed before, I do try and improve.

The actual way you should interpret this is, why go to such lengths to buy myself another day as scum? given how today has gone, i don't imagine a world where scum-BM makes it to E-Lo here anyway, so what would it matter? I dunno, maybe it's like pichu said - the fact i defend myself is NAI, but the manner and sincerity i do it with reads as town.

Either way, if you're town here, I hope you give me some respect for the fact I tried to defend myself from the majority consensus, and didn't just roll over and die.

It still feels
like a lot
of AtE

In post 2594, Battle Mage wrote:this is not a great one - I'm not convinced Morning-town just gives up on reading me here, with a fatalistic "it's gonna be him or me" with 4 days left on Day 1 and barely a majority between us.

[very sorry for being grumpy there, im over it now]

[my bigger issue is that I almost always townread emotions. I did go back and read at least a lot of it. I came away townleaning some of the emotional bits obviously -- i did have some comments in 2542 though that i was curious about. Since when are you a lurky/bad scum player, for example?]

In post 2597, Battle Mage wrote:yes im town noraa, i've poured my heart and soul out in this thread. i think you are emotionally intelligent enough to see this is BM-town. I don't know why you're voting me, unless you are really planning to over-rule Pooky?

[like as i have gone over, a lot of the things people are finding BM suspicious for, i don't really. I certainly haven't read everything though, especially many of mastina's points. I have a lot of respect for BM's scumgame in that i could see this recent emotional play being a ploy (I am having serious flashbacks to Revelations D1 Auro vs. VP Baltar). He also could be town where Mastina/Double are just seriously off the mark]

[I should definitely take a deep dive and try to understand all of the arguments presented but at the moment im just weighing the chances of each player being scum off of what i have read myself. At the moment my only really strong reads are Ydrasse/Pichu/Dunn town]

~Morning

In post 2600, Battle Mage wrote:The actual way you should interpret this is, why go to such lengths to buy myself another day as scum? given how today has gone, i don't imagine a world where scum-BM makes it to E-Lo here anyway, so what would it matter? I dunno, maybe it's like pichu said - the fact i defend myself is NAI, but the manner and sincerity i do it with reads as town.

Either way, if you're town here, I hope you give me some respect for the fact I tried to defend myself from the majority consensus, and didn't just roll over and die.

I don't think this is town indicative considering this is something I did recently as scum but overall I'm not that convinced about you being scum.

-nronor

I do respect the effort regardless of ur alignment tho.

You are a WIM monster just like myself but with more experience.

-nornor

In post 2581, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 2575, Bell wrote:That post looks remarkably familiar.
@BM.

are you literally voting me coz NC told you to? We're 100 pages deep dude, gimme something.

If someone specifically asks me to sheep and i’m Tring them I usually do it.
105 pages day 1. Would prefer ircher over you i’ve been out of this game for like 4 days. There’s a lot of crap to go through. I’m good.

In post 2602, Solstice wrote:Dunn town

Dunn has disappeared off the face of the earth. Why is he a strong TR?

-nornor

In post 2599, Polar Bear Express wrote:

In post 2597, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 2595, Polar Bear Express wrote:BM are you town?
If you are town, what do you think about Murder's stance around your wagon. Constant shade yet no vote?

-nornor

yes im town noraa, i've poured my heart and soul out in this thread. i think you are emotionally intelligent enough to see this is BM-town. I don't know why you're voting me, unless you are really planning to over-rule Pooky?

Tv and ice cubes is a townie who I have a really strong TR on and he thinks ur the best lim. The reasons are decent like if we go elsewhere what if we end up outing a pr? and stuff like that. Idk.
I feel like I'm being dragged one way and then the other.

It's like tug of war but I'm the rope :/

PHEW. UNVOTE:
pls don't hurt me I don't wanna be the rope. I'll vote back only if pooky requests it. I really don't wanna be the rope. It's not good for my enjoyment in this game.

-nornor

half of that hydra set out in detail earlier why the case on me was complete garbage. I think 1 head thinks I'm scum, and 1 head thinks I'm town. It's hard to tell, their opinions seem to vary a lot and they don't sign their posts for some reason.

the argument of elimming someone you think is vanilla because you avoid outting a PR isn't really enough on it's own. you have to actually have some reason to think they are likely scum. otherwise you just elim a bunch of VTs and lose. Presumably the night power is loaded towards scum anyway given they chose their PRs, and Pooky probably ain't gonna force a claim out of one of his own masons so that reduces the risk. also, the worst thing for town in this game is a predictable pool of potential elims which scum can manipulate. unpredictability and some lustre are positive.

Every time
you talk to Noraa
without giving a read on her
I get closer to voting you

In post 2605, Bell wrote:

In post 2581, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 2575, Bell wrote:That post looks remarkably familiar.
@BM.

are you literally voting me coz NC told you to? We're 100 pages deep dude, gimme something.

If someone specifically asks me to sheep and i’m Tring them I usually do it.
105 pages day 1. Would prefer ircher over you i’ve been out of this game for like 4 days. There’s a lot of crap to go through. I’m good.

lol alright i'll sit on you for now, this is brazenly weak VOTE: Bell

‘Sorry, I should have lied.
Actually i’m Scum reading you.
Because mastina’s case was super convincing.

i'd probably still have voted you for that - appreciate the attempt though

Np.
Sorry.

if you're town, you can help immensely by doing pretty much anything other than voting me, when I've already been run up and Pooky-endorsed. can understand not wanting to read loads of crap, but anything will do. otherwise we're not getting anywhere

Pooky, want a slice of pizza?

In post 2596, Battle Mage wrote:I'm not a PR so who gives a crap?

You're right. You're a PR. So why we care about you?

Also, yes, I argued against points of Mastina's case against you. I also said I thought some of the things she said had merit. I'm willing to eliminate you for the latter.

Not to mention Norwee had a point that you spent most of your time relying on AtE to defend yourself rather than solving. And before you were even wagoned the first time, you were clearly softing a PR, but now you're supposedly just a VT.

So here we are, back to the BM wagon.

In post 2608, MURDERCAT wrote:Every time
you talk to Noraa
without giving a read on her
I get closer to voting you

@Noraa why did you unvote this?

In post 2616, Polar Bear Express wrote:

In post 2608, MURDERCAT wrote:Every time
you talk to Noraa
without giving a read on her
I get closer to voting you

@Noraa why did you unvote this?

T^T sorry gloria!!

VOTE: BIG SCUMBUTT MURDERCAT

-nornor

In post 2593, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 2589, Spiffeh wrote:Hey BM what are your thoughts on Solstice currently?

playing very safe. it's hard to tell with MT - I think she is playing how she played when she hydra'd with me as town. Her takes on the game are like, logically sound, and steeped in the trademark MT-town wariness of jumping to conclusions. But I also feel like she's cruising and could easily still be scum here.

In short, could go either way.

In post 2602, Solstice wrote:[like as i have gone over, a lot of the things people are finding BM suspicious for, i don't really. I certainly haven't read everything though, especially many of mastina's points. I have a lot of respect for BM's scumgame in that i could see this recent emotional play being a ploy (I am having serious flashbacks to Revelations D1 Auro vs. VP Baltar). He also could be town where Mastina/Double are just seriously off the mark]

Interestingly enough, both Solstice and BM have similar noncommittal reads on each other.

NK15 - 19 posts out of 105 pages.
Of which:

2 apologising for inactivity
4 non game-related or jokes
3 pushing Bell for the way they talked to Flavor Leaf (I don't mind this really).
2 pushing Norwee for spam, then 2 backtracking from pushing Norwee for spam. (I quite like this, in that he attacked a loud slot, and wasn't afraid to back down. there's a question on the phraseology though, it reads slightly awkward to me.)
3 advising that people shouldn't read too much into meta, because FL would tell people to play to their meta or something (in hindsight, I'm not as convinced this means much)
1 sheeping pichu in an attack on MT, although there's some originality and evidence of solving-mindset in the attack-line taken.
2 posts randomly trying to pin people to Ircher without explanation.
The takes are mostly pretty surface-level. It sometimes appears they have reads which they don't explain. The worst thing probably is a real pre-occupation with Flavor Leaf, and a self-consciousness which doesn't read as town here. It's basically a lurker slot too. But their rare pushes have felt genuine.

Definitely a slot worth pressuring on Day 1, overall a decent chance of being scum, with some bright town feels.

ok real talk
who actually go out of their way to want NK15 on their team?

I've pretty much stopped reading. There's no excuse for having over 100 pages on Day 1. Who the hell actually likes reading that much?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Polar Bear Express
...is probably my vote of choice.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Solstice
...because this day needs to be over.

There is sooooo much AtE in this game.

Toog knows what's up