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You've said yourself you've been way off this game.

I'm asking you to look at the facts being laid out, as well as the reaction to me pushing UT and pooky.

Based on play in the game, Pooky is the scummiest person alive. I think I've shown that pretty clearly with evidence. The fact UT has no doubts about him is hugely concerning.

The path to easily winning this game is separating the scummy people from the townie people based upon actions. Lillith's flip fits with my theory that scum have been coasting and letting town go down the wrong path.

I'm not 100% certain on Titus and Bulge, but I think if you look at the play in this game, Pooky is far worse. My suggestion is we start there and build from that flip.

In post 2575, Untrod Tripod wrote:

In post 2574, Titus wrote:

In post 2566, VP Baltar wrote:Forcing all the scum into the pool is obviously optimal. You'll definitely be dead if we go again, but I'd rather see you and your buddy ratfuck each other and laugh.

This is precisely why I am holding off challenging. If the town in UT/Reck challenges Pooky we just win.

How does that work

Simple.

We don't lim the townie that does the challenge. Free scumflip.

Then, we know who the final scum is and we challenge and lim them.

GG no RE.

In post 2601, Titus wrote:

In post 2575, Untrod Tripod wrote:

In post 2574, Titus wrote:

In post 2566, VP Baltar wrote:Forcing all the scum into the pool is obviously optimal. You'll definitely be dead if we go again, but I'd rather see you and your buddy ratfuck each other and laugh.

This is precisely why I am holding off challenging. If the town in UT/Reck challenges Pooky we just win.

How does that work

Simple.

We don't lim the townie that does the challenge. Free scumflip.

ah, gotcha, it sounded like you were thinking there was only one scum left

so, hypothetically, if it's me x pooky x reck who are you voting for?

also, Titus, you think that the last two scum are within me/reck/pooky?

In post 2599, xRECKONERx wrote:I need to ride those town vibes and gut reads and not second guess myself there because if it is UT I will figure that out eventually because he knows if I'm in a 3p xylo with him and one other person, there's 0% chance I ever hammer anyone other than him because if he's scum, I win he loses, and if he's town, we both lose, and either way I make him lose

same :-*

anyway, VP I don't think that being aggro and snarky suits you. if you want to go down that road, I'm not gonna match the energy because

a. I don't think that benefits anyone
b. you're going to get yeeted before me absent me literally claiming scum no matter what you do

I'd abandon that particular rhetorical strategy if you're town because either no one listens to you because they hate reading your posts or you're gonna get yeeted because no one wants to deal with your shitty attitude

What's my shitty attitude? Because I called you scum? Because I showed reasons why you and pooky make sense?

Spare me the gaslighting, daddy.

It's hilarious you think I'm going to go before you.

im ok with dying first if you clowns will kill titus and bulge after me so we can finally wrap this game up

baltar's head is stuck so far up his own ass he cant find sunlight

on closer reading starbuck still doesn't leave me with a very strong impression beyond an honest/genuine tone to her posts. one thing that does stand out is she quotes just about every instance of someone complaining about the fast pace of the early game, but never really adds to the discussion, not that it is a discussion there is much worth adding to, but I mean she comments on each one in a sorta chummy buddy buddy way.

koba had terrible reads, I mean they were right about gamma but oddly confident about a very scummy slot, but powerfully wrong about cakez and lilith and me and almost definitely notty as well. I found it slightly weird that they didn't really have anything to do with me before I hammered gamma and then seemed so sure I was scum, only to back off, then act surprised other people were wagoning me? the jump onto notsci is extremely odd and maybe was the only way out they could see to save their partner lilith but that weirds me out a lot too with how they backed off of me. I don't pretend to know how koba thinks and I don't think wrong=scum, but so much of their stances are just so ass-backwards weird to me. thing is I don't understand why they would whiteknight for scumbuddy lilith so blatantly and like...unpleasantly? like no attempt at all to appeal or convince the town, all while calling attention to the controversial and very unsubstantiated yet loud and strong read. idk. when a lot doesn't add up like that I tend to lean scum. but the scum motivation is not apparent to me at all either.

Titus makes her stances very clear but hasn't done anything really in the way of taking the reigns, idk how much that means for such a late-stage replacement tho. definitely has her head in the game (as much as one can with the pace it's been moving at as of late) and is presenting a lot of ideas but yea not really pushing those ideas to the forefront at all.

I've gotten a much better gut feeling about every other slot (except pooky whom I have yet to read) alive, but I realize that could have to do with the multiple replacements. I don't see anything that jumps out to me as scum motivated but there's nothing that makes me think any of the three *have* to be town so this would normally be a very strong null which is at this point being pushed by PoE to a scumread.

pooky next :^]

I like the idea of Pooky vs Titus.

Put the two possible team ideas we have in the ring together and after we get a red flip last buddy should be a cakewalk.

Alright, let's do it

In post 2605, VP Baltar wrote:What's my shitty attitude? Because I called you scum?

This wasn't a rhetorical question btw, UT.

Would like to know specifically what you're talking about.

Titus and pooky, where you at?

In post 2612, VP Baltar wrote:Titus and pooky, where you at?

I'm gone more on weekends. I'll catch up but my optimal course of action is pretty set.

In post 2604, Untrod Tripod wrote:also, Titus, you think that the last two scum are within me/reck/pooky?

Yes and I would vote Pooky in that scenario. It allows you both in one challenge that way in case my read is wrong, others can talk about it. It's a minor thing as it should be gg if we can reach through to one town but it limits the what if it's a bus problem.

I doubt it would be a bus though.

I'll give both a full review this afternoon as much as I just want to immediately vote pooky.

VOTE: Pooky

Taking the dive to protect your partner. How admirable. You still lose though unless I am extremely wrong somewhere.

In post 2140, DkKoba wrote:like if im actually wrong on lilith ill fucking delete my account

In post 2140, DkKoba wrote:like if im actually wrong on lilith ill fucking delete my account

In post 2140, DkKoba wrote:like if im actually wrong on lilith ill fucking delete my account

In post 2140, DkKoba wrote:like if im actually wrong on lilith ill fucking delete my account

In post 2140, DkKoba wrote:like if im actually wrong on lilith ill fucking delete my account

The pool of players eligible to be eliminated today consists of



Titus (1) : PookyTheMagicalBear
PookyTheMagicalBear (1) : Titus

With 7 members of the expedition remaining, it will take 4 to eliminate.

kinda a bummer that we don't have much from the Starbuck/Koba/Titus slot on AGar

in terms of players I'm not worried about, I feel good about Reck, Baltar, notty/Pooky in order of decreasing townreadiness

Koba's behavior around lillith was pretty concerning, but Koba was equally obnoxious about Gamma who did flip town.

in terms of votes, the slot was early to the noraa misyeet, sat on a counterwagon (Baltar) to Gamma, then was on Bulge for a while but then got off and didn't get back on when they had a chance to hammer even as it sat at Y-1, then when lillith got run up the slot just sat on notscience even though that was clearly going nowhere

a couple of takeaways:
-I feel like Titus should have seized the free towncred if she was scum with lillith, which makes me think that maybe she's not scum.
-Bulge was already on lillith, so if you think they're scum together, Titus really can't be because the only play on the table was to get the other two some towncred for bussing. Therefore, to my way of thinking, Titus/Bulge contains at maximum one scum player. Titus was still trying to push a Bulge yeet when lillith was on the table
-if I'm trying to determine if one of the two of Pooky/Titus is scum, Titus-scum would have clearly misplayed yesterday whereas Pooky grabbed that hammer when the lillith yeet looked inevitable. I don't know if that means Titus is town, considering she was still trying to push that Bulge yeet. Titus declared a willingness to vote for whoever, but didn't actually move over to lillith, which makes me think that she was just trying to hedge her bets to get some towncred in case the play of "maybe I can still get Bulge votes today" didn't pan out

in short: I'm conflicted