with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-04-30 18:15:00).
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:00 am
by Andresvmb
In post 2596, Anya wrote:who's the wolf that really wants vfp dead in that scenario? dkkoba's check honestly means nothing bc neither them or vfp died, it just means they were roleblocked or are lying
Yeah but if they were RB’ed, they are Town then. And the Scum is trying to do what, exactly? I guess let us all fight over it? I don’t know just mechanically I’m having a hard time dismissing all of this as Town just concentrating all around one player and it be completely nothing even though everyone is still alive.
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:00 am
by Anya
but why does that make us want to kill vfp? it just tells us dkkoba was blocked if they're town
oh wait is it bc DkKoba implied they were gonna kill vfp the day before and that's why a wolf vfp would roleblock them? i see i see i have my monocles on
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:01 am
by DkKoba
ill explain later but asteria admitting that they saw i would choose my shot based on flip and choosing the person people were scumreading most there is like peak admittance of guilt. like knowing that it was going to potentially be dead and checking it ? yeah ok.
like wow the person thats being pushed on is suddenly cleared lol
yeah they were flipping scum and u needed to pull a miracle out of your hat.
In post 2545, Anya wrote:so vfp is town unless we have a DkKoba asteria vfp house party exactly
like the more i think about it the less of a stretch this seems lol. is the wifom turning my brain to mush or is this just a holy trifecta of scum
it's such a pizza in the microwave move it'd be crazy
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:02 am
by DkKoba
anya is prob 3rd
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:02 am
by DkKoba
vfp gonna flip roleblocker prob and thats why they needed to be hero saved
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:05 am
by Anya
where did you actually imply you were gonna shoot at vfp can you quote it
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:06 am
by Salsabil Faria
Ok, if I understand correctly, if
VFP
is town, then there is a scum in between
DkKoba
and
Asteria
: this possibility is making more sense to me. Now, if I think about the roles in the game, by keeping this in mind that our mod is scum-sided, which actually kind of proves that as the mafia has a doctor, means the town has a killer role (if the town hasn't any killer role, then why our scum-sided mod give the mafia team a doctor??), which means
DkKoba
is telling the truth and
Asteria
is lying and the mafia most probably has a roleblocker (but not a rolestopper). Am I making sense here guys?
Also
Andante
, I think this is the high time to reveal your night result fully.
hypothetically if a weak vig were to target a mafia player and the vig was roleblocked, does the weak vig die?
the weak vig would not die.
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:10 am
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2598, InsidiousLemons wrote:that whole reaction check felt pretty fake to me. would not be surprised in the slightest if VFP is scum and Asteria's claim is baloney. mafdoc!VFP, anyone?
I'm thinking by flipping
VFP
will clear the confusions?
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:10 am
by Andresvmb
The part that makes what Koba is saying make even more sense is the fact that a lot of folks came out with strong pushes against VFP, including Andante. If Asteria had come out with their check at the beginning of the day and cleared them, I would be thinking about this very differently. All of this just
feels
convenient.
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:14 am
by Salsabil Faria
So it's either
VFP
or
Asteria
?
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:14 am
by Andresvmb
Koba they wouldn’t have flipped though, you would have. See that’s the thing I don’t get. Why didn’t they just let you shoot? They could have easily WIFOM’ed out of that, argued that I looked the worst or something.
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:15 am
by Anya
dats has been awfully silent throughout all this suprised he has no nuggets of wisdom to offer to us
What I want to know is that one's flip from between these two will confirm the other's role?
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:15 am
by Andresvmb
Andante made a strong statement towards the end of the day that Dragons being Town heavily implied that VFP is Scum. But Koba didn’t directly acknowledge that.
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:16 am
by Andante
yeah Asteria is scum here lmao the fact any of you would believe she's real at this point..
What I want to know is that one's flip from between these two will confirm the other's role?
VFP flipping VT probably speaks positively to Asteria’s Claim but isn’t clearing. Frankly nothing clears anybody here. Koba flipping Weak Vig would just tell us that the Scum have an RB.
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:18 am
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2612, Andresvmb wrote:Koba they wouldn’t have flipped though, you would have. See that’s the thing I don’t get. Why didn’t they just let you shoot? They could have easily WIFOM’ed out of that, argued that I looked the worst or something.
This theory makes
VFP
scum if
DkKoba
is town and roleblocked.
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:19 am
by Andante
I think Asteria is only now picking VFP as the VT cause of how much pressure we've put on VFP and VFP hasn't cracked, so vfp was safe to go "yeah they're a vt"
Like, VFP's "I subtly said something" doesn't mean much, Asteria outed due to a panic claim, so of course she has to keep it. idk, I hate her initial claim, then waiting forever to out the vt, and her timing of it? no thanks
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:19 am
by Andante
I just don't get why we'd have informed gs, weak vig, and a non consecutive night neo.. this isn't making any sense
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:20 am
by Andresvmb
I mean yeah Andante I agree with you. I think the timing is suspect. I’m just trying to think logically through this.
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:20 am
by Andante
we could always leave the neo alone, and yeet VFP, and VFP flipping scum confirms asteria. I just don't tr vfp
In post 2612, Andresvmb wrote:Koba they wouldn’t have flipped though, you would have. See that’s the thing I don’t get. Why didn’t they just let you shoot? They could have easily WIFOM’ed out of that, argued that I looked the worst or something.
This theory makes
VFP
scum if
DkKoba
is town and roleblocked.
But only if the Scum knew that the Town would have figured out that Koba intended to shoot VFP. I’m not convinced that’s the case. Does that make sense?
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:22 am
by Andante
In post 2621, Andresvmb wrote:I mean yeah Andante I agree with you. I think the timing is suspect. I’m just trying to think logically through this.
same, cause logically yeeting a pr is a stupid idea, but like, ahhhhhh idk, why would scum inno their own partner, and I'm trying to think who dies tonight, neo 100% livescause it's non consecutive, I die, vig roleblocked again? so night kill won't help anything