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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:43 pm
by Hella Jeff
doesn't t3 have a history of claims that don't benefit the game at all as the cool town alignment
i know he did it in a newbie game once
what are the differences between this game, that one newbie game (might link later) and the one where he claimed odd night xxx even night traffic analyst or something like that

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:45 pm
by Hella Jeff
t3, y claim BG and do fuck all with your guaranteed d1 survival

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:46 pm
by Almost50
In post 2599, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Y not just kill T3.
I already explained that. T3 is basically "dead scum walking". Him not doing anything last night points to him being a Goon. I want to try to hunt for a Scum PR. We have a "Scum Doctor" (as per Enchant's result) and a "Scum Role Cop" (as per Dwlee's claim). The latter is what concerns me more at this point.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:49 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Maybe if we have a vig. But leaving T3 alive leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:51 pm
by Hella Jeff
In post 2602, Almost50 wrote:I already explained that. T3 is basically "dead scum walking". Him not doing anything last night points to him being a Goon. I want to try to hunt for a Scum PR. We have a "Scum Doctor" (as per Enchant's result) and a "Scum Role Cop" (as per Dwlee's claim). The latter is what concerns me more at this point.
why is the doctor that's been detected by enchant's voyeur likely to be scum?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:53 pm
by Almost50
What's an outed goon gonna do? I want the ROLE COP as a primary target, THEN we can worry about the Doctor. Solve the game early then leave it on "auto-pilot". If we get the Doctor and there's a Vig they can shoot T3 at will. If we we get the Role Cop we know the Vig is safe from being outed at night.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:56 pm
by Almost50
In post 2604, Hella Jeff wrote:
In post 2602, Almost50 wrote:I already explained that. T3 is basically "dead scum walking". Him not doing anything last night points to him being a Goon. I want to try to hunt for a Scum PR. We have a "Scum Doctor" (as per Enchant's result) and a "Scum Role Cop" (as per Dwlee's claim). The latter is what concerns me more at this point.
why is the doctor that's been detected by enchant's voyeur likely to be scum?
Oh, God! You're scum aren't you??? I will concede I lost the game EVEN if we do win it.

I'll respond though for the simple minded players: April claimed Doctor and wasn't CC'd. That ON TOP OF a BG claim on D1. What TOWN Doctor doesn't come out at that point?

So either an UNKNOWN SCUM DOCTOR was on T3, or April himself is the SCUM DOCTOR and is lying about having targeted S_S

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:01 pm
by Almost50
Guys (and girls): Am I assuming/expecting too much of certain players? I don't even think I'm doing anything "overly clever" here. I'm running with basic scum hunting logic. Like, it's literally Mafia 101 (Mafia as in THIS GAME, not the alignment)

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:01 pm
by osuka
In post 2602, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2599, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Y not just kill T3.
I already explained that. T3 is basically "dead scum walking". Him not doing anything last night points to him being a Goon. I want to try to hunt for a Scum PR. We have a "Scum Doctor" (as per Enchant's result) and a "Scum Role Cop" (as per Dwlee's claim). The latter is what concerns me more at this point.
counterpoint: if t3 is gated scum pr, isnt it sensible to let someone else perform the night kill?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:02 pm
by Hella Jeff
In post 2606, Almost50 wrote:So either an UNKNOWN SCUM DOCTOR was on T3, or April himself is the SCUM DOCTOR and is lying about having targeted S_S
so it isn't conclusive kk, that's what i was trying to figure out
In post 2606, Almost50 wrote:That ON TOP OF a BG claim on D1. What TOWN Doctor doesn't come out at that point?
one that's able to target the BG and synergize? :]

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:03 pm
by Almost50
In post 2608, osuka wrote:
In post 2602, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2599, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Y not just kill T3.
I already explained that. T3 is basically "dead scum walking". Him not doing anything last night points to him being a Goon. I want to try to hunt for a Scum PR. We have a "Scum Doctor" (as per Enchant's result) and a "Scum Role Cop" (as per Dwlee's claim). The latter is what concerns me more at this point.
counterpoint: if t3 is gated scum pr, isnt it sensible to let someone else perform the night kill?
Countercounterpoint: What gated Scum PR stays put on D1? Give me ONE Role you think would do that.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:04 pm
by Almost50
In post 2609, Hella Jeff wrote:one that's able to target the BG and synergize?
A Doctor that will protect a BG that said they were going to protect the other Doctor claim which is -to the unclaimed Doctor- confirmed Scum fake claiming??

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:09 pm
by Almost50
Also, a combination of a Town BG + Town Doctor is a NO-NO because it creates a "circular protection loop". IF there's an unclaimed Town Doctor (other that April) they have to be Roaming. They can never be -say- Complex or FULL or even multiple-shots, and if there is a Roaming Doctor they should have CC'd April on the spot (because only a COMPLEX DOCTOR would believe a Simple Doctor's claim, but then they would know better that to believe the BG claim)

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:13 pm
by Almost50
I mean, people were already suspicious of the BG+Simple Doctor combination, and you think ANOTHER Doctor thought it was sensible?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:24 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2602, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2599, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Y not just kill T3.
I already explained that. T3 is basically "dead scum walking". Him not doing anything last night points to him being a Goon. I want to try to hunt for a Scum PR. We have a "Scum Doctor" (as per Enchant's result) and a "Scum Role Cop" (as per Dwlee's claim). The latter is what concerns me more at this point.
But like we don’t even know for sure T3’s teammates, but we do know T3 likely mafia.
I’m not some risk taker.
Scum is confirmed scum we lim scum ktnx.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:28 pm
by Almost50
I am not asking you to vote my way. I am saying I am not voting yours. kthnx

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:29 pm
by Hella Jeff
damn i feel ENLIGHTENED now
thanks, excuse my mechanical ignorance

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:30 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Yeah?
Well then i’m not inviting you to my birthday party next year.
How about THAT?

Hmph.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:30 pm
by Something_Smart
I can't think of any reason why getting rid of the goon is beneficial when there's a claimed follower... oh wait.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:36 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 2312, Dwlee99 wrote:Btw, t3 should be on me tonight. Not going to elaborate why
actually, i think you need to elaborate on why here.

You said you were targeted by an Announcing Role Cop, and no townie is taking credit for that, meaning it's scum.

This means scum would know your role.

So why should t3 have been on you?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:38 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Um. To prevent him from dying?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:40 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 2620, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Um. To prevent him from dying?
why does that matter over others?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:42 pm
by April Ludgate
he's a claimed miller who said a role cop checked him. no reason for him to go that path. i think dwlee has scum chance from it.


I also dont think A50 takes that path he is as scum.

T3, Dwlee, then one of Andante/Osuka, leaning Andante.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:42 pm
by April Ludgate
unless im overthinking, and it's just norwegian.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:43 pm
by April Ludgate
i personally dont mind leaving t3 alive to get another flip.