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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:46 am
by Andante
VOTE: Umlaut

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:49 am
by Andante
In post 2463, Umlaut wrote:
In post 2459, Scorpious wrote:is Nero's role mechanically possible? I need the big brains for this one.
How would it not be possible? Even-Night Gunsmith is a normal role, that's all that's required.
you were like strongly defending Nero too, not even a question for a second if it were real... like there's no way we have a backup for an even night gs...

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:20 pm
by Dwlee99
Okay there goes the even-night vig theory I guess

Seems like my brain clicked a little too well there

Anyway
VOTE: Eyes

Jk
VOTE: Umlaut

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:04 pm
by HockeyFan
I like your pfp Dwlee.

Also, wave claiming 1-shot rolecop with a GS check on me, and then nero claiming gunsmith even though he was mafia alien enabler makes them to be paired, but I feel like thats too good to be true.

so tbh @andnate, i want wave over umulat here(for now), wbu?

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:25 pm
by Eyes without a face
I will wait for everyone to post before I try to read into anything

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:32 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 2603, HockeyFan wrote:I like your pfp Dwlee.

Also, wave claiming 1-shot rolecop with a GS check on me, and then nero claiming gunsmith even though he was mafia alien enabler makes them to be paired, but I feel like thats too good to be true.

so tbh @andnate, i want wave over umulat here(for now), wbu?
Thanks! The mod drew it (:

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:49 pm
by Andante
In post 2603, HockeyFan wrote:so tbh @andnate, i want wave over umulat here(for now), wbu?
asking me who I want? I want Umlaut. Nero claimed, I didn't buy it, then umlaut was deadset on me

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:54 pm
by Scorpious
Adante. I said I’d be looking at you if Nero flipped Red, and he did. So please. Explain to me why I should not be questioning your decision to take Nero off of E-1 after I declared intent?

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:56 pm
by Andante
do whatever you want, I'm not discussing DAY 1 here on day 3

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:04 pm
by Scorpious
In post 2608, Andante wrote:do whatever you want, I'm not discussing DAY 1 here on day 3

Your is on Nero is sooooo bad

VOTE: Adante

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:04 pm
by Scorpious
Iso

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:16 pm
by HockeyFan
In post 2606, Andante wrote:
In post 2603, HockeyFan wrote:so tbh @andnate, i want wave over umulat here(for now), wbu?
asking me who I want? I want Umlaut. Nero claimed, I didn't buy it, then umlaut was deadset on me
Why didnt u believe the claim

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:16 pm
by HockeyFan
In post 2609, Scorpious wrote:
In post 2608, Andante wrote:do whatever you want, I'm not discussing DAY 1 here on day 3

Your is on Nero is sooooo bad

VOTE: Adante
Agreed, but i dont wanna vote Andante today(at least for now)

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:28 pm
by Eyes without a face
Well, I am not trying to take credit for anything or to appear town here 9and if you think I am then vote me out I don't care, because I'm doing this for a greater cause)
In post 408, Eyes without a face wrote:I should let you all know I tend to suspect replacements more
In post 525, Eyes without a face wrote:I happen to know some of those who did replace out before making a single post hate to play scum
In post 751, Eyes without a face wrote:Nero had the best reaction.. which is.. bad! Nero is also an aggressive player as town, and I can guarantee you him being nice in the main thread is almost a scumtell.
You guys should really give room for players to express themselves without scrutiny. I was probably getting somewhere early on but everyone debunked me that I inadvertently doubtede myself and gradually reversed my read on Nero. In 525 I was referring to UD btw. Precisely UD.

Again, this has nothing to do with this very game. I am promoting a wider concept of letting other players follow their proposed theories and examine after the result and not before. No need to tell someone their ways are bad and don't make sense just because you didn't think like they do. I didn't even come up with that theory but rather adopted it from someone else and was willing to try and apply it to see how well it goes.

That said, Umlaut is also a replacement and I don't mind voting them, but that's just one slot I don't trust. As a matter of fact I need to reevaluate everything since I obviouslyb started well then gradually worked my way to get Nero from 2nd bottom to top 3 on my list.

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:45 pm
by Scorpious
In post 1148, Andante wrote:
In post 1147, Stephen A Smith wrote:
In post 1144, HockeyFan wrote:also, @Stephen why are u voting Nero? Is it cuz Frozen has used the same argument 10 times to prove her point(not that i think this is inherently scummy), but im cirous
Let me be absolutely frank about why I am voting Nero.

If I have to read another Frozen Angel post about how Nero is lockscum I will literally stab my own eyes out.
I'll join nero wagon!
VOTE: Nero
In post 1162, Andante wrote:
In post 1157, fireisredsir wrote:imo if anything a lim on Nero would encourage there to be more wallposts
and if nero is in fact scum, that is ok!!!
In post 1163, Andante wrote:oh I just realized, nero is e-1 lol
In post 1164, Andante wrote:tbh I like the people on this nero wagon, so I think it flips red
In post 1239, Andante wrote:
In post 1235, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1234, Andante wrote:me: outs a tr on nero post 700

Frozen: HOW DARE YOU VOTE NERO WHILE STILL TRING NERO!!! - post 1200
so you don't town read Nero anymore?
I do. yes. nero town.
In post 1240, Andante wrote:
In post 1238, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1234, Andante wrote:me: outs a tr on nero post 700

Frozen: HOW DARE YOU VOTE NERO WHILE STILL TRING NERO!!! - post 1200
Do you town read him or not?
yes. nero town.
In post 1286, Andante wrote:
In post 1283, Frozen Angel wrote:Since where did you want nero gone scorp?
Since I put Nero on e-1 and called Scorp out for not actually asking for nero's claim... since that exact moment!! Scorp probably can't give a single reason for nero scum either right now..
In post 1311, Andante wrote:
In post 1309, Andante wrote:tbh my bottom 3 from that early list are probably actually maf...

nero, hockey, scorp
***WAVE NOT NERO lmaooo yall must hate me...

WAVE, HOCKEY, SCORP
And this is just the tiniest of samples

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:11 pm
by Eyes without a face
@Scorpio: Why Andante over me? I did basically the same thing starting with a SR and weak push on Nero and ended up hard TRing him.

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:11 pm
by Eyes without a face
*Scorpious

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:40 pm
by HockeyFan
my favourite thing about what scorp just poted is the fact that andnate williingy voted sopmeone she trd rofl

anyways, i dont trust any of my reads anymore lol

Eyes still town tho

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:00 pm
by the worst
Eyes is town ya

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:09 pm
by Umlaut
In post 2601, Andante wrote:
In post 2463, Umlaut wrote:
In post 2459, Scorpious wrote:is Nero's role mechanically possible? I need the big brains for this one.
How would it not be possible? Even-Night Gunsmith is a normal role, that's all that's required.
you were like strongly defending Nero too, not even a question for a second if it were real... like there's no way we have a backup for an even night gs...
I have seen (and put in my own games) much weirder things than a backup for an even-night gunsmith. I don't even see how the plausibility of the claim is an issue here, the problem with it is that Nero turned out to be scum (like I said he was for
two days
), not that the claim itself was implausible.

Anyway, how was I not questioning it for a second? This was my response:
In post 2446, Umlaut wrote:Provisionally accepting this claim, may revisit later depending on what happens. Nero would be a good investigation target if someone has an investigation that distinguishes Town Gunsmith from Mafia [Whatever].

Hockey, can you say whether you are a backup gunsmith specifically, or a backup of something else? (No need to say what else if not gunsmith)
If you want to go after people who were defending Nero then I am like the worst possible choice except maybe FA who is already dead.

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:12 pm
by Stephen A Smith
fam can we get dwlee now

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:16 pm
by Umlaut
But I really don't think scum!Nero pushes a wagon on his buddy
a la
right after fakeclaiming, so it seems kind of implausible that Nero and Andante are scum together.
Stephen A Smith wrote:fam can we get dwlee now
Actually yeah.

VOTE: Dwlee

Was not at all impressed with their trying to take credit for a 'prediction' that Nero was a PR that they couldn't at all back up having made. Unless someone can point to a crumb that he made and Dwlee picked up, it seems more like they already knew what Nero was going to claim.

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:26 pm
by Scorpious
In post 2615, Eyes without a face wrote:@Scorpio: Why Andante over me? I did basically the same thing starting with a SR and weak push on Nero and ended up hard TRing him.

I’m latched like a tick to the pulling of the e-1 vote.

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:24 pm
by Stephen A Smith
im down for either dlee or sheeping fa again on andante because sheeping fa worked yesterday

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:38 pm
by Stephen A Smith
In post 2508, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2505, Stephen A Smith wrote:
In post 2503, Dwlee99 wrote:Well I do have some now that I've reread something but I don't feel like sharing what made me think he is a PR now that I figured out why I thought that
he's already claimed PR so you don't really have an excuse why not to share it
I don't feel like outing PR tells
In post 2513, Dwlee99 wrote:It is also playing to win this game — outing a tell could help scum find other PRs
now that we know your "tell" is not very accurate can you explain your thought process on nero = pr?