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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:43 pm
by Thestatusquo
Ugh i hate the multi quote mobile thing.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:44 pm
by Thestatusquo
One of the things I'm kind of bummed about is i felt really good about Marci and scamper as scum early day one but then they both had like inflection points that made me think that was totally off base.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:46 pm
by fireisredsir
i think you should be happy that you came to a better conclusion

well jury is still out on marci, not so sure about that one

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:48 pm
by Thestatusquo
Idk i like 1v1s

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:48 pm
by marcistar
In post 2602, fireisredsir wrote:well jury is still out on marci, not so sure about that one
im pretty so i cant be scum :good:

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:49 pm
by Thestatusquo
Idk the pretty ones are who you have to look out for.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:49 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 2205, Frogsterking wrote:Hey dannflor I want you to post your thoughts on the identity of the scum team
In post 2476, Frogsterking wrote:Okay I say kill Dannflor first because they're on antispew.
VOTE: Dannflor

I think Dannflor is trying to lurk out the pressure and spew as little as possible.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:50 pm
by scamper
In post 2588, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm really interested in what people think about what i think about obscure.

Because i was not happy when i came to the conclusions i did. So sanity checks appreciated.
i will cop to this: this was a thought i had in my back pocket that i did not want to share on day 1, because i did not want to push obscure then (and was planning on waiting on sharing it until later this phase if possible)


i do not think obscure is new to forum mafia. i believe he is legitimately new to the website (because the mods will smack down someone who tries to join the newbie queue as an alt), but he is downplaying his forum mafia experience. he is more self-assured than i would expect a newbie to be, and has also used language i would not expect a new player to use, while seemingly playing up his inexperience to get townread. i do find this suspicious although i have seen people play the fake newbie card as town before, god knows why

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:50 pm
by Thestatusquo
Can you go more in depth on Dannflor as a scum read? I talked about it a bit in my post if you want context but i just didn't get that from my read through and it's the scum read of people i had the hardest time understanding.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:50 pm
by Thestatusquo
@frogster

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:50 pm
by marcistar
In post 2605, Thestatusquo wrote:Idk the pretty ones are who you have to look out for.
why

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:51 pm
by fireisredsir
In post 2603, Thestatusquo wrote:Idk i like 1v1s
i felt a gradually creeping sense of dread reading your section on scamper bc i think if you had stayed in the tunnel and tried to force a 1v1 it would have like destroyed the game if you're town, based on what seems to be your playstyle

so i was very happy to see you land more on the town side of things

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:51 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 2602, fireisredsir wrote:i think you should be happy that you came to a better conclusion

well jury is still out on marci, not so sure about that one
In post 2608, Thestatusquo wrote:Can you go more in depth on Dannflor as a scum read? I talked about it a bit in my post if you want context but i just didn't get that from my read through and it's the scum read of people i had the hardest time understanding.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:51 pm
by marcistar
In post 2608, Thestatusquo wrote:Can you go more in depth on Dannflor as a scum read? I talked about it a bit in my post if you want context but i just didn't get that from my read through and it's the scum read of people i had the hardest time understanding.
i think i liked a dannflor post when i read during night but i forgot what post it was so nvm :dead:

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:52 pm
by scamper
In post 2602, fireisredsir wrote:i think you should be happy that you came to a better conclusion

well jury is still out on marci, not so sure about that one
i think baltars townread on marci is too terrible to be a townread on a partner

beyond that i still think her reaction to being scumread is way more likely to be town entitlement altho i admit i could be overly generous there

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:52 pm
by Thestatusquo
In post 2607, scamper wrote:
In post 2588, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm really interested in what people think about what i think about obscure.

Because i was not happy when i came to the conclusions i did. So sanity checks appreciated.
i will cop to this: this was a thought i had in my back pocket that i did not want to share on day 1, because i did not want to push obscure then (and was planning on waiting on sharing it until later this phase if possible)


i do not think obscure is new to forum mafia. i believe he is legitimately new to the website (because the mods will smack down someone who tries to join the newbie queue as an alt), but he is downplaying his forum mafia experience. he is more self-assured than i would expect a newbie to be, and has also used language i would not expect a new player to use, while seemingly playing up his inexperience to get townread. i do find this suspicious although i have seen people play the fake newbie card as town before, god knows why
Specifically what do you think of the twice referring to the number of scum in the game? Honest to God when i saw that i practically hacked the site to unlock the thread to vote him

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:53 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 2612, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2602, fireisredsir wrote:i think you should be happy that you came to a better conclusion

well jury is still out on marci, not so sure about that one
In post 2608, Thestatusquo wrote:Can you go more in depth on Dannflor as a scum read? I talked about it a bit in my post if you want context but i just didn't get that from my read through and it's the scum read of people i had the hardest time understanding.
Oops

I was going to say to fire that I have marci town leaned, and I was going to ask status to rewrite their statement to me as a question.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:53 pm
by Thestatusquo
In post 2614, scamper wrote:
In post 2602, fireisredsir wrote:i think you should be happy that you came to a better conclusion

well jury is still out on marci, not so sure about that one
i think baltars townread on marci is too terrible to be a townread on a partner

beyond that i still think her reaction to being scumread is way more likely to be town entitlement altho i admit i could be overly generous there
I want to know what you think of my observation that multiple times day one she responded to people saying x is more likely to come from town by immediately doing x right after.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:54 pm
by Thestatusquo
I don't know what "can you explain why Dannflor was being scum read in the first place to me" is not a question.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:56 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 2607, scamper wrote:i do not think obscure is new to forum mafia. i believe he is legitimately new to the website (because the mods will smack down someone who tries to join the newbie queue as an alt), but he is downplaying his forum mafia experience. he is more self-assured than i would expect a newbie to be, and has also used language i would not expect a new player to use, while seemingly playing up his inexperience to get townread. i do find this suspicious although i have seen people play the fake newbie card as town before, god knows why
+1

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:56 pm
by obscure
I asked how many scum there were and someone answered maybe 5 but probably 4.. I don't see the point of playing a game if I don't know the objective of the game - which, in this case involves knowing the number of mafia.

I teach English in real life, I'm a grown adult, I'm smart enough to figure out where to look to try to find help with terminology and such and I'm not trying to come across as daft, I'm only mentioning it because I was hoping people would be understanding/help me along with smaller things. If you want to vote me out or think I'm mafia that's fine but this is flat out something I'm not lying about and I'd appreciate if it was respected.

Good night

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:57 pm
by scamper
going back to this:
In post 2547, Thestatusquo wrote:Post 1501 ok I’m back to not liking scamper because I do not like this post at ALL. I know I have some bias here because I know the flip, but this play just does not match the style I’ve seen scamper do all game, which is to cautiously move extremely slowly with his own reads and nitpick everyone elses reads ad naus without actually engaging with them. He has also multiple times expressed not being interested in things or bored by them because he does not think they lead to useful information.

So it is EXTREMELY incongruous here for him to immediately say, upon a replacement joining the game to replace an extreme lurker “I’m just going to vote here immediately.” despite even saying that the replacement is NAI based off of the one entry vote when theres so much else going on. I just…What?

Do I think its necessarily scum indicative? Idk, but holy hell is it completely different from every other game action he’s taken this game.
do u actually think me making an immediate vote is unlike the actions i have taken this game?

i had one scumread i felt decently about on day 1, irrelephant. i could not get traction on him because people were townreading him for (imo bad) reasons and then he stopped playing the game and made excuses for not catching up. of course i am going to go back to tghat scumread on day 2. you dont get to start with a clean slate.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:58 pm
by scamper
In post 2617, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 2614, scamper wrote:
In post 2602, fireisredsir wrote:i think you should be happy that you came to a better conclusion

well jury is still out on marci, not so sure about that one
i think baltars townread on marci is too terrible to be a townread on a partner

beyond that i still think her reaction to being scumread is way more likely to be town entitlement altho i admit i could be overly generous there
I want to know what you think of my observation that multiple times day one she responded to people saying x is more likely to come from town by immediately doing x right after.
i havent read ur entire wall and probably wont have time to get to most of it tonite

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:59 pm
by scamper
thread moving too fast rn so i am probably going to take a break

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:59 pm
by Thestatusquo
In post 2621, scamper wrote:going back to this:
In post 2547, Thestatusquo wrote:Post 1501 ok I’m back to not liking scamper because I do not like this post at ALL. I know I have some bias here because I know the flip, but this play just does not match the style I’ve seen scamper do all game, which is to cautiously move extremely slowly with his own reads and nitpick everyone elses reads ad naus without actually engaging with them. He has also multiple times expressed not being interested in things or bored by them because he does not think they lead to useful information.

So it is EXTREMELY incongruous here for him to immediately say, upon a replacement joining the game to replace an extreme lurker “I’m just going to vote here immediately.” despite even saying that the replacement is NAI based off of the one entry vote when theres so much else going on. I just…What?

Do I think its necessarily scum indicative? Idk, but holy hell is it completely different from every other game action he’s taken this game.
do u actually think me making an immediate vote is unlike the actions i have taken this game?

i had one scumread i felt decently about on day 1, irrelephant. i could not get traction on him because people were townreading him for (imo bad) reasons and then he stopped playing the game and made excuses for not catching up. of course i am going to go back to tghat scumread on day 2. you dont get to start with a clean slate.
I'm talking about your vote on CMM there.

Your vote on relly was when i started to think you were town.