When zito actually posts substance he looks town, just seems like most of the time he's more interested in being obstinate and unhelpful. Still bothered by him evading my questions from a while back, though - see no reason for him to be so evasive. I don't even care to read him in detail at this point because I'm not that suspicious of him, it's just annoying more than anything.
xRECKONERx:
This was painful to go through as it felt like there was a really high noise level reading this. It's not a scumtell, I just wanted to gripe.
One thing I did notice was that in
667 and
686 he calls notscience scum for saying that mollie vs cdb looked like town vs town, then in
1382 says "notty feels town still" despite not ever expressing any sort of a townread on him before this and giving essentially no indication of where the read changed. There seems to be a lack of a consistent thought process here and this happens a few more times in his ISO. Doesn't seem like something that happens to someone who's legitimately scumhunting.
Marquis expresses suspicion of Reck in
1231, reck comes back and starts attacking him in
1385, reasoning feels very flimsy to claim that marquis is scum because doubted his read of mollie 6 minutes after a previous post, thought his overall posting to that point had been town (I admit ther's a little hindsight bias going on here but it still feels like a very odd reason to scumread someone). He'd previously expressed a townread of marquis in
299 and
445. Don't deny it's possible for reads to change but the way he went after him here feels very reactionary. Disagree really strongly with his reasoning in
1464, Marquis seemed to be solidly analyzing the game, not to mention that attacking him for "just popping in every once in awhile" and doing "enough to be ready to jump on a wagon" feels exceptionally hypocritical given his posting to that point - he'd been doing more or less nothing but popping in every once in a while, so to call someone else scum for it does't make much sense.
Hops on mykonian in
1407, lists matt as a possible lynch in
1408. In
1466 says "mattp is basically a matter of "oh uh he hasn't done much" compounded with SC's rather awfulness, whereas I feel like myko is actively scummy" but doesn't actually explain why mykonian is scummy. This definitely feels like it could be a partner trying to pursue counterwagons but leaving their options open to bus. Hadn't really said much at all about the SC/Matt slot otherwise, other than voting im at the end of his contextless readlist in
445, which doesn't do a whole lot for me.
statement in
1513 of "could die today too" without context is kind of blah, just sort of gets thrown out there and I don't understand why.
catchup posts in
2452 -
2469 says basically nothing useful, it's all easy commentary and dismissing of of statements other people made with some open-ended questioning, there's nothing approaching analysis here, it's a fairly scummy catchup that seems designed to give the impression of activity more than anything.
I'm obviously biased here, but him clapping back at me in
2492 after I express suspicion of him is bothersome, because I feel in part saying I "haven't read" is a bit off a misrepresentation, I've been reading people but hadn't done detailed ISO reads, thought I made that clear. I know it was ages ago but he townread me previously in
1387, as I've said I know reads can change but this feels very reactionary, and similar to how he reacted to Marquis. The moment someone expresses some suspicion of him he abandons any prior read and starts attacking them. I really do not like it at all. Response in
2495 is vulgar, dismissive, type of post that
can
be very easy for scum to make - it's not inherently scummy but in the contxt of everything else, fairly bothersome especially as I don't think my criticisms were illegitimate at all. I know that can be a thing town players do because they're overconfident jerks but coupled with the rest of his posting + the heavy lurking, it really bothers me.
I'd be lying if I said I had a strong scumread here but I'm not really picking up on anything close to a towntell. I am seeing towntells on other people and that's enough for me to want to lynch him at this point.
Reads list ultimately goes something like this. I can more confidently justify the town reads than I can really push on the scumreads. Probably messed up somewhere but not worried about that
Town Reads (strongest -> weakest):
mollie, Spiffeh, Davsto, Flameaxe, notscience, <gap>, Bins, mykonian, Starbuck, Nexus, CDB
null:
zito, curiouskarmadog
Scum Reads:
scotmany12, reckoner, espeonage
