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Is the scum afraid of joining my wagon or what? Why am I still talking here?

In post 2624, Cerberus v666 wrote:@MDS: You should expect me to be able to read you. Our one game together you were an IC at the time you replaced in, and I've never seen you as scum.

This should read should NOT, not should. :p

Um, Cerb, I'm not exactly a newb but I don't have much recent experience. I should read as either obvtown or obvscum.

It's your partner that's concerning, MDS.

Well, mostly.

Well I can't really defend him since most of his game has been in our PT. I just think he's town.

Jester, come here and persuade them you're not scum pls.

Well, what in the PT is particularly convincing?

Does he explain why he didn't vote gamma? How does he re-evaluate post-flip?

Why does he townread parama?

And what are his thoughts re:smith?

Kagami you are going about asking a lot of people a lot of different things but I see very little from you in terms of actually taking stances

From now on I request that you answer every question you ask yourself

I'll get back to you on that if he doesn't, I need to make dinner.

Which part of my stance would you like clarified? My thoughts seem pretty clearly presented.

I didn't vote Gamma cause I wasn't 100% sure about him being scum. My scumread on him was mostly meta-based and that's always shaky plus his reaction to Vedith threatening to leave seemed genuinely towny. And I was pretty sure Vedith was town so I tried to look for a scum-scum pair (to no avail).

What about parama, why did you have a townread there?

I'd have to re-read so be patient

I'm more curious about your read historically.

You seem reasonably loose with your vote in completed games, why do you need 100% certainty here?

Your votes in clash of fates are extremely uncomfortable.

I don't have a vote meta, sometimes I vote often and loosely, sometimes I abstain from being on lynch wagons for the whole game if I feel I'd put my hand to mislynches (see: Surrealism)

that was the first game I looked at, you weren't inactive re:voting. Whether or not your vote is part of a lynch wagon isn't really something you can control in any case.

I don't see the point you're making. Wanna lynch me on account I haven't voted this game?

lolmeta

In post 2643, The_Jester wrote:I don't have a vote meta, sometimes I vote often and loosely, sometimes I abstain from being on lynch wagons for the whole game if I feel I'd put my hand to mislynches (see: Surrealism)

Do you do that as VT too? You were seer in that one, so I'm not sure how relevant it is as a comparison basis.

When I'm not sure the target will flip scum, yeah.

I agree that you're playing this game more tightly than either your scumgames or your towngames, but your scum-votes seem to be very awkwardly justified, and you're clearly not comfortable placing them. I don't see anything comparable in your towngame, and I don't see why you'd change your voting pattern here as town.

Requiring 100% certainty is silly, and you know that. I don't see how that's a defense for not voting gamma at any point in the Day. Did you provide some indication I've missed in thread that you want to vote exclusive for a possible scum-scum pairing? Is there something in your PT about this that MDS can verify?

The parama issue stems from your shadow townread, which you've held since the beginning of the game and I'm not entirely sure why. Given the belief that shadow is town, how did you form a townread on Parama? His early iso is largely his demanding shadow's death for reasons you presumably consider invalid, and a short agreement with my "jester is scum" comment. Parama suddenly arising from dormancy upon my mention of this isn't giving me warm fuzzies either, but that's a different story.

Is there information in your PT available to MDS that can address any of this?