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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:47 am
by Joey_
Actually, i just thought about it but Gamma is mechanically clear of being last red already since he would never have wasted his faction scum night kill on the protected IC, also joda and gamma cant both be lying (in case joda faked the track) since theres most likely 1 red left so
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:50 am
by Joey_
In post 2624, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 2621, Klazam wrote:Also Joey being leader is smart option here because that way town keeps control of delegates at daystart tomorrow. That’s one thing I thought of.
This is actually clever. I like this idea.
i have been saying that since day start tbh, its better to give the WC to the non-clear because the IC can get killed anytime
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:59 pm
by Titus
In post 2601, Joey_ wrote:I think we should totally confirm Pidgey and Marshy's role tonight so they get cleared from being last red
In post 2602, Joey_ wrote:And i also think that we should witch hunt last red to prevent a night kill every night from now on
In post 2610, Chara wrote:i think assuming there needs to be a scum religion spreader is about on the level with assuming two scumteams, except one of those options says we need to lynch in marshy/Almost/pidgey because they all have the same power.
Let's force them to prove their roles, then we lynch in the pool imo.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:14 pm
by Nero Cain
HEAL: brass2x
I'm pretty sick again so I'll be v/la for the next 2 or 3 days.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:15 pm
by brassherald
In post 2593, Joey_ wrote:@Brass do you prefer to get the +2 delegates or nah ? If im WC i will give them in your possession regardless tomorow if you are still alive
Sure I'll take extra delegates.
Sorry guys had a full date day and have to catch up. Also overgamed a bit and it really showed.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:17 pm
by brassherald
Looks like I was too late for that anyway. I dropped out of some games though and should be back for force in this one. I still can't promise lots of posts tomorrow though since weekends are the rare times I get to spend with my fiancee until we find another apartment
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:18 pm
by Almost50
In post 2583, Shaziro wrote:I am now 100% Confident that one of A50, Pidgey, and Marshy is scum.
So am I, tbh. Protestant & Catholic should not be of the same alignment. And now I need to decide which of the two I want to lynch.
OK
VOTE: pidgey
I think Isabela of Aragon was responsible for the initiation of Inquisitions in Spain, which was basically a genocide against non-Catholics (and especially Muslims & Jews). Of the top of my very weary memory there was also a Ferdinand of Castilla?
I mean, regardless.. Catholicism is tied with inquisitions in the middle ages, so it's more likely to be assigned a Mafia role than Protestantism.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:22 pm
by Almost50
In post 2584, marshy wrote:why? a religion spreader already flipped scum. unless you think each scumteam has a religion spreader but i dont see why that HAS to be the case. religion is a really weak role and seems to be worthless unless theres some kind of wc boost for it. im not convinced that theres def another scum there and if i was scum thats the narrative id be pushing because it deprives the lynchers of accountability
Look at it this way: Catholicism vs Protestantism and Paganism vs Taoism and it may make sense to you that there are 2 Town Religion spreaders vs 1 Red Mafia & 1 Orange Mafia
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:26 pm
by Almost50
In post 2589, marshy wrote:btw keep in mind that scum cant kill and use a role power in the same night as venmar stated earlier. so i could not have killed elbirn and recruited him in the same night.
How we do we know you recruited him to begin with??
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:29 pm
by Almost50
And you also speak of THREE scum teams when we only have been assuming 2?? I smell a skunk!!
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:33 pm
by Almost50
Can anyone think of a major historical incident where the Protestants where the "war wagers", so to speak? I mean, The Catholic Church was also responsible for the Crusades, so that's why I'm voting Pidgey over Marshy here
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:36 pm
by brassherald
In post 2635, Almost50 wrote:Can anyone think of a major historical incident where the Protestants where the "war wagers", so to speak? I mean, The Catholic Church was also responsible for the Crusades, so that's why I'm voting Pidgey over Marshy here
The Irish Rebellions?
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:36 pm
by brassherald
In post 2636, brassherald wrote: In post 2635, Almost50 wrote:Can anyone think of a major historical incident where the Protestants where the "war wagers", so to speak? I mean, The Catholic Church was also responsible for the Crusades, so that's why I'm voting Pidgey over Marshy here
The Irish Rebellions?
Wait, no, I think those were Catholics as well, nevermind. Got the two sections mixed up
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:49 pm
by marshy
In post 2633, Almost50 wrote: In post 2589, marshy wrote:btw keep in mind that scum cant kill and use a role power in the same night as venmar stated earlier. so i could not have killed elbirn and recruited him in the same night.
How we do we know you recruited him to begin with??
you dont. hes dead. that said my understanding is people who get recruited are told. so id prove it tonight
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:52 pm
by marshy
that said i havent played civ in years but it seems all the major religions are covered in this game if you want to look at it from that pov
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:09 pm
by Kokichi Oma
It's not impossible, I don't get why you're trying to force this.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:10 pm
by Kokichi Oma
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:36 pm
by Almost50
In post 2638, marshy wrote: In post 2633, Almost50 wrote: In post 2589, marshy wrote:btw keep in mind that scum cant kill and use a role power in the same night as venmar stated earlier. so i could not have killed elbirn and recruited him in the same night.
How we do we know you recruited him to begin with??
you dont. hes dead. that said my understanding is people who get recruited are told. so id prove it tonight
Regardless. You may be able to prove your role tonight but that doesn't mean you used it rather than the factional kill last night.
The only thing working in your favour their is you claiming to have visited Elbrin unprovoked. Then again, that would be the only valid fake claim for you to make when you are outed a religion spreader and asked to reveal your targets.
No. That doesn't clear you at all.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:45 pm
by Chara
don't really think i buy "one of the religion spreaders has to be scum" to begin with. it could just as easily all be town with the intent to make one of the claims look suspicious. they do all need to prove it but that's more bookkeeping than anything else.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:45 pm
by Chara
i mean if i had to guess one it would be marshy, but that's more laziness than a real conclusion.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:57 pm
by Chara
In post 2552, Almost50 wrote:I don't want to do the extra work of ISOing and quoting you. Suffice it to say the way you're handling me/Gamma/Nero is very much town you. Or you could always say it's gut and I have not seen something scummy from you.
P.S. Also the very fact that you cared to ask about it rather than just be content I'm TRing you.
i'm aware enough of my own meta to ask you about your townread on me as scum, Almost! :>
i don't think i've really obvtowned this game (on-purpose or accidentally), but i know your metric for reading me is probably different than what i'm thinking of. why the Gamma/Almost/Nero grouping?
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:05 pm
by Chara
In post 2632, Almost50 wrote:Look at it this way: Catholicism vs Protestantism and Paganism vs Taoism and it may make sense to you that there are 2 Town Religion spreaders vs 1 Red Mafia & 1 Orange Mafia
if religions are tied to civilizations, and civilizations are NAI, does this mean anything?
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:54 pm
by Almost50
Because that was the main subject .. Nero pushing Gamma and I hard defending him.. and congratulations on making me second guess the confident TR on you, because I thought it was obvious why specifically that grouping, so now I'm feeling like you're asking for the sake of asking!
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:40 pm
by Chara
there's more than you and Nero on either end of the Gamma issue. but i do get what you meant now. :<
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:51 pm
by Maestro