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and is TMCK included in that locktown pool

Taly/Nancefloor/RC/TMCK/Chemist

i'm going to be a bit shier about presuming that bef was town b/c counterwagon without seeing flips but i'm faiirly sure that he's not scum.

okay you didnt need to name names but

With a dance and veto we should cut down the pool to seven

We can vengekill post coalition which should get us one scum then!

i already named names, i haven't been secretive about my reads.

i also have literally no objection to taking the designated double mislynches that scum tries to bait us into taking to avoid killing townreads.

In post 2626, RadiantCowbells wrote:Taly/Nancefloor/RC/TMCK/Chemist

i'm going to be a bit shier about presuming that bef was town b/c counterwagon without seeing flips but i'm faiirly sure that he's not scum.

BEF is the first name I'd put in the veto pool, along with Clemency and Johnny.

No, I think rc is right here. Veto after. Dance, coalition, veto, then we can decide from there. Quick question though. If we dance and hit scum somehow, we cant use coalition, right?

Actually, we can 1of4 after veto

yes we can.

1 of 4 timing depends on a number of factors

if we double hit scum we cant veto because there is one scum left

Titus, I think veto'ing first is a lost cause.

RC is flat out wrong. In fact, he should never have announced his lock towns in a dance setup if he wanted coalition after. His lockdowns will never be paired together at all if scum have any sense of competence. This let's scum hide. The low hanging fruit will also be paired with them.

Veto is strictly superior and we have total control on who dies.

I don't think Titus has said a single thing I've agreed with this game

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RC is flat out wrong. In fact, he should never have announced his lock towns in a dance setup if he wanted coalition after. His lockdowns will never be paired together at all if scum have any sense of competence. This let's scum hide. The low hanging fruit will also be paired with them.

Veto is strictly superior and we have total control on who dies.

your problem is that you're seeing this as a thing where we actually try to lynch scum as opposed to just hitting the lynchbaitiest pairing and shrug when it inevitably flips double town.

If we double hit scum we might as well 1 of four and literally lynch everyone in the pool

In post 2639, themilkcartonkid wrote:If we double hit scum we might as well 1 of four and literally lynch everyone in the pool

Yes

In post 2635, OkaPoka wrote:Titus, I think veto'ing first is a lost cause.

I have 9 days or until it's hammered. If RC knew I was town and he was town, he'd be all over veto. Dance gives less info for a town Totus to work with and much more for scum and ironically craptonnes for scum Titus.

In post 2636, Titus wrote:RC is flat out wrong. In fact, he should never have announced his lock towns in a dance setup if he wanted coalition after. His lockdowns will never be paired together at all if scum have any sense of competence. This let's scum hide. The low hanging fruit will also be paired with them.

Veto is strictly superior and we have total control on who dies.

Dance is not about killing scum it's about info

In post 2641, Titus wrote:I have 9 days or until it's hammered. If RC knew I was town and he was town, he'd be all over veto. Dance gives less info for a town Totus to work with and much more for scum and ironically craptonnes for scum Titus.

no i really don't trust your mechanical skill as town and i don't care about giving you a good situation because you don't threaten me at all as scum.

In post 2638, RadiantCowbells wrote:

RC is flat out wrong. In fact, he should never have announced his lock towns in a dance setup if he wanted coalition after. His lockdowns will never be paired together at all if scum have any sense of competence. This let's scum hide. The low hanging fruit will also be paired with them.

Veto is strictly superior and we have total control on who dies.

your problem is that you're seeing this as a thing where we actually try to lynch scum as opposed to just hitting the lynchbaitiest pairing and shrug when it inevitably flips double town.

Actually no. I'm seeing it as a tool to remove scum or lynchbait and get a crap ton of data to work from.

Do you think knowing the alignments of BEF Clemency and Johnny would be useful, even if town?

yes
that's not the point
it's MORE useful to be able to quickly flip people in the coalition pools

In post 2642, themilkcartonkid wrote:

In post 2636, Titus wrote:RC is flat out wrong. In fact, he should never have announced his lock towns in a dance setup if he wanted coalition after. His lockdowns will never be paired together at all if scum have any sense of competence. This let's scum hide. The low hanging fruit will also be paired with them.

Veto is strictly superior and we have total control on who dies.

Dance is not about killing scum it's about info

Then why not veto where we actually pick who we get info on?

In post 2645, RadiantCowbells wrote:yes
that's not the point
it's MORE useful to be able to quickly flip people in the coalition pools

Quickly flipping people town pick is veto not dance

In post 2646, Titus wrote:Then why not veto where we actually pick who we get info on?

because dance doesn't skyrocket in +equity later in the game, and veto does.

lets just hug it out