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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:32 pm
by Bitmap
Last scum has to be a redirector. I literally BG RC last night.

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:38 pm
by Bitmap
In post 832, Salamence20 wrote: Im still for TL>Pops>Alch>Chem/ShiroDrew
Would Sala put both his scum mates in this list?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:47 pm
by Bitmap
I don't like the Chemist slot.

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:21 pm
by Alchemist21
@Bitmap, @TL,
what really went on in that hood while RC was alive?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:31 pm
by Bitmap
That's not important.

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:33 pm
by Bitmap
In post 2407, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 2406, Farkran wrote:Just how messed up do we think this setup is?
I wouldn't put a redirector past this game.
You're probably not the redirector?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:37 pm
by Alchemist21
In post 2629, Bitmap wrote:That's not important.
Kinda is. Did he tell you guys who he used his Follow Up ability on?
In post 2630, Bitmap wrote:
In post 2407, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 2406, Farkran wrote:Just how messed up do we think this setup is?
I wouldn't put a redirector past this game.
You're probably not the redirector?
I'm not.

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:10 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2604, Bitmap wrote:TL is almost confirmed town. I know scum's last PR. There's a fucking SK I told you guys.
Why is there an SK? Imo it’s much more likely vig or some other myriad of killing roles based on V&M and my roles.

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:11 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2613, Kerset wrote:Gamma did you get any bonus vote yesterday?
No, why?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:17 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Yeah I checked everything over and I never picked up any extra votes

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:08 am
by Farkran
In post 2606, Alchemist21 wrote:Somebody hit me with the Charm Status.
In post 2619, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 2616, Bitmap wrote:
In post 2606, Alchemist21 wrote:Somebody hit me with the Charm Status.
What is charm status?
Prevents me from using memoria, magia/doppel, or Night actions (excluding factional kills).
Another soft-roleblocking ability? I don't think scum has access to this though. Bewitch has an ambiguous description and does not block magia, but if scum had Charm as you described, no way salamence would have said he was stunned over this.

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:13 am
by Farkran
In post 2609, Sujimichi wrote:Apologies, Venus and Mars. I asked RadiantCowbells for their reads on the remaining scum yesterday and wasn't provided an answer, so I went based on his ISO.
In post 2612, Sujimichi wrote:My skill is "My True Nature" which allows me to remove one vote from a target provided they have three or more votes currently on this. My cooldown for this is 2 phases.
My ability is "The Mao Family Is As Rowdy As Ever" which grants me a 25% chance to block a status ailment.
My 100MP ability (which I used last night) is "Blitz Stride" where I get 2 votes and choose a target to kill.
My 200MP ability (which I calculated was unreachable based on my discs) is "Hornet Javelin" where I get 3 votes and choose a target to kill; however, it will only work if the target is not a Kamihama Magical Girl. I also become able to survive one kill attempt the night this is activated.
I don't think this comes from a SK, so i'll probably believe it.

You should have listened to me btw, V&M was almost never scum in this game from how she played in d1

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:19 am
by Farkran
In post 2625, Bitmap wrote:Last scum has to be a redirector. I literally BG RC last night.
Why did you think specifically of a redirector?

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:20 am
by Farkran
In post 2634, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah I checked everything over and I never picked up any extra votes
You need to flavorclaim right now

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:09 am
by Kerset
In post 2633, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2613, Kerset wrote:Gamma did you get any bonus vote yesterday?
No, why?
I thought that you had 3 votes but apparently it was V&M.

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:13 am
by Kerset
I was wondering that with Sala real night ability, scum was likely to pick accel on n1.

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:43 am
by Sujimichi
In post 2636, Farkran wrote:You should have listened to me btw, V&M was almost never scum in this game from how she played in d1
I'm not sure what you have done that I should listen to you over RadiantCowbells in this game. Obviously, it is easy to make statements like this in hindsight, but it further no purpose.

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:54 am
by Farkran
In post 2641, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 2636, Farkran wrote:You should have listened to me btw, V&M was almost never scum in this game from how she played in d1
I'm not sure what you have done that I should listen to you over RadiantCowbells in this game. Obviously, it is easy to make statements like this in hindsight, but it further no purpose.
Yeah i was mostly joking, don't worry about it. The fact that you feel guilty and nervous about it though is indicative of you being sincere, so this exchange wasn't entirely useless.

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:17 am
by Chemist1422
In post 2627, Bitmap wrote:I don't like the Chemist slot.
don’t we all

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:30 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2638, Farkran wrote:
In post 2634, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah I checked everything over and I never picked up any extra votes
You need to flavorclaim right now
Why?

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:32 am
by Farkran
In post 2644, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2638, Farkran wrote:
In post 2634, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah I checked everything over and I never picked up any extra votes
You need to flavorclaim right now
Why?
Because there's something you did that makes you likely to be 3rd scum and i'd like to verify if i am correct

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:36 am
by Gamma Emerald
Ok then
Meiyuu Chun

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:45 am
by Gamma Emerald
Now I’d like to know what this thing I did is

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:55 am
by Alchemist21
In post 2632, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2604, Bitmap wrote:TL is almost confirmed town. I know scum's last PR. There's a fucking SK I told you guys.
Why is there an SK? Imo it’s much more likely vig or some other myriad of killing roles based on V&M and my roles.
In post 2636, Farkran wrote:
In post 2609, Sujimichi wrote:Apologies, Venus and Mars. I asked RadiantCowbells for their reads on the remaining scum yesterday and wasn't provided an answer, so I went based on his ISO.
In post 2612, Sujimichi wrote:My skill is "My True Nature" which allows me to remove one vote from a target provided they have three or more votes currently on this. My cooldown for this is 2 phases.
My ability is "The Mao Family Is As Rowdy As Ever" which grants me a 25% chance to block a status ailment.
My 100MP ability (which I used last night) is "Blitz Stride" where I get 2 votes and choose a target to kill.
My 200MP ability (which I calculated was unreachable based on my discs) is "Hornet Javelin" where I get 3 votes and choose a target to kill; however, it will only work if the target is not a Kamihama Magical Girl. I also become able to survive one kill attempt the night this is activated.
I don't think this comes from a SK, so i'll probably believe it.

You should have listened to me btw, V&M was almost never scum in this game from how she played in d1
I actually think Suji’s role is a little too stacked to be a vig. Town vigs don’t usually include protection like his role does; SK’s are the ones who usually get that kind of combo.

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:59 am
by Farkran
Ok so far here's what i believe with a decent degree of certainty:
  • TL is a town neighborizer
  • Suji is a town vig
  • Kerset is town
  • Alchemist is town
I'm not entirely certain of bitmap's claim yet, but it's plausible until proven otherwise. Also i think i know Chemist's flavor, but it's NAI. Given that list, my PoE is {Gamma, Chemist}.

So, looking at Salamence +40mp night ability and people who -probably- picked an Accel disc d2: {gamma, alchemist, sujimichi} i think we have our 3rd scum in gamma who likely has a strongman ability embedded in her magia power, which allowed him to bypass bitmap's protection. Plus there's also VCA and plausible distancing from pops in d1 to back this up.

VOTE: chemist but i actually want to lynch gamma today, will vote gamma in my next post due to my ability