White Flag - TM2020

[Hopkirk]

I don't see Molla flipping scum. I don't think Molla's done anything useful to town at any point and is currently my thought for least valuable player, but that's town LVP.

Where's everyone on Cheeky scumflip since she appears in a lot of what I'm considering.

Hop 'Hopup' Hop

[Hopkirk]

So does anyone think Hop scum is scum with anyone except Fish/Auro/Dong?

D1 wagon got brought up about me a couple of times and that's just odd. Scum hop stays on the wagon and doesn't attract attention. Scum Hop has no reason to draw attention to himself when he knows he won't have time afterwards to properly respond to it/influence the tone of the response. If I'm scum then I sacrificed the niche I could coast on and decided that I'd leave the entire game 100% up to how a strong (given teams very strong) group of town find consensus town leaders and leave my chance of winning purely up to their whims?
Mechanically I had a much stronger incentive to actually play as scum since if I pulled scum and won then we win the entire event, assuming town won Elements game. I'm probably going to stop talking here actually and just post what I've typed so far.

Do I feel like scum Gobble who overestimate the towncred he'd get from bussing is likely here?

Hop 'Hopadop' Hop

[Dannflor]

@Dong, FF and NSG had no impact on theirs or each other's wagons being created. If scum, they bussed out of necessity not because it was planned.

[Hopkirk]

Cheeky and her blood thirsty gang, what happens to your view of this game when I flip town? Who do you suspect after that? Where do you go from there? You all are banking very heavily on me flipping scum, but when that doesn’t happen, how will your view of this game change?

Cheeky can also flip scum with Gobble. Ceph only flips scum with Cheeky so that's never a lynch.

[Hopkirk]

Ceph/Cheeky both look town but make sense together.

Would not lynch either today because of night kill kill pools- scum kills one of them and confirms the other, and they're widely townread enough that one of them gets nightkilled before we're forced to decide there.

[Hopkirk]

I think if town-Ceph locktowned on me then town sweeps this.

[Hopkirk]

People I’m never lynching for 100% right now include: Ceph/Molla/Dong

[Hopkirk]

That leaves a possible lynchpool of

Dannflor
Formerfish
CheekyTeeky
Auro
gobbledygook

Formerfish is a townread that I may need to revisit. What've we got 3 choose 5 there?

[Hopkirk]

I honestly do not understand how Dann's team comes to consensus agreement that I'm scum legitimately. It absolutely reads like they're coming to a push on me when they decided I wasn't vibing well with the town reads now.

Not particularly a fan of the recent Dann effort based townreads as scum have a lot

more

reason to put effort into their team mafia game.

[Hopkirk]

Auro reads as fairly obvtown. I feel like if he's scum it's with other people in that lynchpool. My solve for lynches atm is looking like

Gobble/Dan/Cheeky

Should hit anything?

[Hopkirk]

There's scum equity in the people not being meaningfully pushed. Looking from my perspective this gamestate doesn't happen with consensus townreads being right here.

I don't accept that in a gamestate where the people most widely considered town have discussed it with their teams and are happy to vote me here. Just look at how good team mafia towns in general are. I'm very unconvinced that the alleged amount of effort being put into this results in Esperon then me being the primary wagons when we're 2/4 of the easiest lynch targets in the game (based on general reads/activity/avoiding consensus challenging)- the other 2 being Dong and Gobble.

Hop 'Hopcoptor' Hop

[T-Bone]

Vote Count

Hopkirk - 3

(Dannflor, Cephrir, BBMolla)

goobledygook - 1

(Auro)

Dongempire - 1

(gobbledygook)

Auro - 1

(Dongempire)

Not Voting - 3

(CheekyTeeky, Formerfish, Hopkirk)

Activity Check - All good!

Deadline: (expired on 2020-02-10 23:00:00)

With 9 Alive, it takes 5 to Lynch

[BBmolla]

Yeah okay it’s Hop/Dong

[Hopkirk]

I don't think my team have read the game at all. Currently asking Hectic about how the Eddie/Dann dynamic unfolded in their game.

Here's a thought Molla, don't complain about other people being bad when you have no apparent ability to gel with people.

[Hopkirk]

VOTE: Gobble

Hop 'Hopz' Hop

[Dannflor]

I'm fairly sure I said BB/Gobbles was one of my top picks right now.

Going to Hamilton tonight after another long work day so don't expect much. I'd vote gobble here but I want to drag this day out to let's say two before deadline so I can properly solve.

Hop 'hopilton' hopkirk

what happened with BB/Gobble being your top pick

[Dannflor]

Ank says that she's scum reading Hop so hard because she's not town reading him and feels like she should by this point

[Hopkirk]

BB pushed gobble enough that it's less likely.
BB seems like abrasive town which reduces the likelihood.
It's covered by a Gobbles lynch.

So is Ank just considering everything I said d1 as neutral if it's 'not a townread'?

[BBmolla]

I don't think my team have read the game at all. Currently asking Hectic about how the Eddie/Dann dynamic unfolded in their game.

Here's a thought Molla, don't complain about other people being bad when you have no apparent ability to gel with people.

I do though lmao

Just not y’all

[BBmolla]

Except Dann, we’re gellin

[BBmolla]

Also I’ve stopped a lynch on town so I can’t be LVP tyvm

[Hopkirk]

oh which one?

[BBmolla]

Mine

[BBmolla]

Also all my gel buddies are demoralized by the garbage reads in this town

[BBmolla]

Gobbles lynch Hop today, if wrong I’ll go Dong tomorrow