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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:36 pm
by T3
In post 2623, Dwlee99 wrote:Still gonna be mad if it's t3/mastina/norwee btw but yes sure
Unless this mindmeld was planned through a time machine mastina and I just can't be scum.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:36 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 2623, Dwlee99 wrote:Still gonna be mad if it's t3/mastina/norwee btw but yes sure
This because I'm actually getting mad flashbacks to this newbie I played 5 years ago where I was in 5p ELO and the two town didn't post at all and the two scum posted cases and reasoning etc. and I was like okay well these two other people can't even be bothered to post so must be scum and then well I lost that game

But I've also had games where scum did the not posting part

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:38 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 2625, T3 wrote:
In post 2623, Dwlee99 wrote:Still gonna be mad if it's t3/mastina/norwee btw but yes sure
Unless this mindmeld was planned through a time machine mastina and I just can't be scum.
Do you think it's impossible for scum to agree with each other on a townie making a weird sounding post?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:43 pm
by T3
In post 2627, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2625, T3 wrote:
In post 2623, Dwlee99 wrote:Still gonna be mad if it's t3/mastina/norwee btw but yes sure
Unless this mindmeld was planned through a time machine mastina and I just can't be scum.
Do you think it's impossible for scum to agree with each other on a townie making a weird sounding post?
I mentioned it sounded weird waaaay back day 1 and then mastina touched upon it in her reread now.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:44 pm
by mastina
Btw is a bit hard for me to lock down but push come to shove if I HAD to read it any way it'd be Emperor as scum with TMI in knowing Norwee town GCB scum.
In post 2627, Dwlee99 wrote:Do you think it's impossible for scum to agree with each other on a townie making a weird sounding post?
Impossible?
No.
Highly improbable to be close to impossible?
Yes.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:44 pm
by Dwlee99
I'm also still pissed that despite me being completely 100% correct on Bingle we had FC and Mastina choose to shoot there.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:52 pm
by T3
Unless the me/mastina thing was planned since day 1 we are both town.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:52 pm
by mastina
In post 293, The Emperor wrote:
In post 281, Green Cap Boys wrote:something rings wrong to me about emperor making a huge wallpost about me/norwee interaction, but only a tiny section of it is dedicated for why he found me scummy. i'd ask why is he that sure that that's me spinning things scummy as opposed to me seeing something and calling it out, but something tells me that won't be a productive discussion? iunno.
actually sure - why do you think it makes me scum as opposed to someone who saw it differently than you?
-D
I'm not sure, if I was sure, I'd have dedicated more to explaining why you were scummy. You're a scumlean

I'm unsure if you're town who just sees it differently to me since I know you specifically have experience with Norwegian, I saw it as a standard town Norwegian reaction, or nai at worst. The reasoning you gave isn't even bad in a vacuum, I'd actually agree with it if it was being used on a secret alt for example, but the fact it lands on our dear Norwegian Boy is what sends me shivers
This vaguely looks partnerey to me btw. It looks definitely like Emperor/Aristeia as scum but also vaguely like Emperor/Aristeia scum with GCB.
In post 298, Green Cap Boys wrote:how ironic would it be if i now said "i get the feeling the emperor has an agenda of stopping people form townreading me"?
-D
In post 299, Green Cap Boys wrote:eeeeh. not sure i actually believe it though.
-D
I can see this interaction as either side but the back out here actually feels scum to me for some reason.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:55 pm
by mastina
In post 2630, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm also still pissed that despite me being completely 100% correct on Bingle we had FC and Mastina choose to shoot there.
I stand by it being genuinely for the best.

If shooting town is the price I pay for catching all 3 scum, it's a price I'd pay any game.

(Granted, admittedly, I do need to catch all 3 scum, which isn't a guarantee. I'm doing my best tho.)

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:56 pm
by T3
CALLING ALL TOWNIES
vote gcb ari and rce

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:02 pm
by mastina
In post 320, mastina wrote:Green Cap Boys

The Emperor
ta vera

NorwegianboyEE

{The Limit Does Not Exist, Dwlee99, Titus}

cass.bruant

Fairy Circle (hydra of Momrangal and Flea the Magician)

Bingle
Well...shit.
I really hate giving evidence to the LLDesque "invert mastina's first readslist to catch scum", but, uhhhhhhhh...
...Oops? :P
(This was my first readslist in the game and the three slots I think have the highest chance of being scum are the top three and all of the bottom names are town so I gave credence to the LLD invert-mastina-readslist theory. :oops: )

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:14 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Fuck it, i’m never gonna chanhe my vote anyway. VOTE: RCEnigma

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:15 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
It feels to me like the major scum strategy for ElO was: "Make Mastina look scummy because they led eliminations on town!!" and when both me and T3 said: "nah dawg" they were like: "well shit, we’re all out of ideas…"

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:09 pm
by mastina
In post 2637, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It feels to me like the major scum strategy for ElO was: "Make Mastina look scummy because they led eliminations on town!!" and when both me and T3 said: "nah dawg" they were like: "well shit, we’re all out of ideas…"
I have that effect on people sometimes!

It's surprisingly annoying to play against when you're scum. :P (A fact that you can personally attest to.)

Butyeah while I am
probably
voting for RCE here eventually, I still want to properly sort out who the last scum is if the second is Aristeia.

A second vote not from me on RCE wouldn't be too bad, but me casting a second vote there and/or a third vote on RCE places us in immediately-ends-the-day territory and I'm not ready for the day to end yet.

I'd like to get to later parts of the game in particular as those are the sections with the highest chance of containing clear/condemn interactions of the slots in question (which you're technically among even though I'm like 95% on you being town; I'd like to read the part of the game that could add the final 5% there).

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:16 pm
by mastina
In post 327, Green Cap Boys wrote:
In post 320, mastina wrote:Green Cap Boys
The Emperor
how do you have these two names at the top of your readslist?
-D
Hilariously enough I lowkey think that this is scum-indicative from GCB because it could be just asking "how the fuck do you have two scum as topping your readslist?!?" and that's honestly how that statement reads... :shifty:

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:17 pm
by Aristeia
In post 2637, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It feels to me like the major scum strategy for ElO was: "Make Mastina look scummy because they led eliminations on town!!" and when both me and T3 said: "nah dawg" they were like: "well shit, we’re all out of ideas…"
who are you even talking about?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:21 pm
by mastina
In post 2640, Aristeia wrote:
In post 2637, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It feels to me like the major scum strategy for ElO was: "Make Mastina look scummy because they led eliminations on town!!" and when both me and T3 said: "nah dawg" they were like: "well shit, we’re all out of ideas…"
who are you even talking about?
Well:
In post 2436, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2434, Green Cap Boys wrote:also, now that those flips have flipped that, can anyone offer me an actual good reason to townread mastina?
-D
Why weren't you here yesterday :( I was saying Mastina is evil
For a start, between Dwlee/GCB we're almost guaranteed one scum, so...

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:23 pm
by Aristeia
I don't see anything in RCE's iso that suggests he thinks Mastina is scum so I'm confused why Norwee is saying that's the scum plan while voting for RCE.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:25 pm
by Aristeia
In post 2508, RCEnigma wrote:If you hit town at any point it kinda does. Getting the clean sweep though I see.

My wagon yesterday didn't hit resistance. I had 3-4 votes the whole day and it didn't switch until Mastina campaigned for tldne based on bingle not picking up steam. Bingle refused to go on me even as our wagons competed and I read that as highly town indicative. That might be hindsight making it stronger now cuz, well FC was town too but at the time I wasn't convinced with Mastinas case and me voting bingle would have to be something pretty damning.

I threw the possibility of Mastina!scum at bingle yesterday and he remained adamant this was their towngame and I'm inclined to believe it.

So with that said my wagon lost steam with tldne's picking up off the back of Mastinas vote. With the way bingle/FC played out yesterday AND knowing both had a shot n1 (my bad, I know) I figure scum saw the support to elim I had but backed Mastinas push to preserve a miselim today with the idea that BOTH bingle and FC would be night kills.

Unless the team is me+Mastina+whoever, then you could argue scum actively moved against my elim for preservation instead of changing gears for the win.
this is the only post he makes today about Mastina and it implies he's in the Mastina!Town camp?

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:00 pm
by RCEnigma
I'll say I have 0 interest spending another game defending a case against the player I replaced.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:33 am
by T3
VOTE: rce
This is a wagon.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:45 am
by NorwegianboyEE
The Alliance strikes back

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:08 am
by T3
We should claim our pain so that tonight we can assault everyone in the poe with ain.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:10 am
by T3
Let's assume rce flips scum because if he doesn't then there will be no tonight.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:12 am
by T3
The new block made of town: Me, mastina, Norwee