In post 2619, skitter30 wrote:I actually kinda think she would, precisely for the description of their play you give a bit later on, that they sort of push things from somewhat dubious angles sometimes
My point with bringing that up though was that I thought she was less likely to play that way as scum, because it tends to attract attention.
Have you played with scum-her?
My point tho is that it-as-town doesn't seem to care if this playstyle brings it under suspicion, and i'm not sure if scum-it would care anymore
And no i havent
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:07 am
by skitter30
For good or bad i think today is ending in a ss flip tbqh
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:22 am
by Tetrina
Galron is definitely town and kyouko is probably town, I don't get why she's voting Galron The Smart something is our best bet for voting out a scum still
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:25 am
by Tetrina
Actually I can't think of a reason for pooky being town either, so I would vote Smart>cephrir>pooky. Everyone else just feels like they have their moral compass set right
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:39 am
by Galron
Something Smart, if you are alive tomorrow, will your effort change?
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:45 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 2638, Tetrina wrote:Actually I can't think of a reason for pooky being town
what about my adorably shiny nose?
have you thought about that ?
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:15 am
by Galron
RE #2558 @ Galron Can I have a reasoning on the vote on Kyouko, please?
Locke, Even though others aren't seeing it, including some of your compatriots, I'm not going to give up on a scum read because of that. I unvoted her because I was overthinking it I thought, but then I reasoned that I gave up too easily. Her saying that I'm voting her not because I'm sheeping skitter but because of my own reasons is only partially true, and she seems to keep saying otherwise, that it's all because of the tmi argument that she laid on me Day 1. Then she says I'm lying about something else and uses what she said about Something Smart to back it, something about "You're more measured, and as scum your posts are self-focused" (paraphrasing) and I pointed out that his posts are self-focused this game so what is different this game. She referred me back to the "you're more measured" part. Well, I read what she originally wrote as being connected instead of two disparate thoughts (the you're more measured modifying the the second part of the sentence), and she apparently didn't intend it that way. I explained that in a later post, and she didn't include my explanation in her accusation. Just taking things out of context like that is scummy imo.
It's like when I jumped in on Day 1 and accused Pooky of scumming when he posted the read list of you callers. It was dumb of me to do that, because I hadn't read the 2 or 3 pages prior to that and didn't have the context for why he was doing it. It was pointed out to me that Rousseau had made that request of him, so I backtracked and said whoa you're right. I should have been more aware before throwing stones.
In Kyouko's case, it's obvious she's aware of everything, but she's cherry picking quotes and not giving them their proper due. You take something out of context and anything can sound scummy. "You didn't tie your shoes today." Kind of sounds like you were too lazy to tie your shoes, when actually the person knows you sprained your thumb last night and tying your shoes would be a pain in the ass, so it wasn't a matter of being lazy.
So in sum I've seen a lot of that type of thing from her, or at least I have the sense that I've seen a lot of that kind of thing from her this game. It's scummy behavior, and I'm sticking with my read.
RE #2558 @ Galron Can I have a reasoning on the vote on Kyouko, please?
Locke, Even though others aren't seeing it, including some of your compatriots, I'm not going to give up on a scum read because of that. I unvoted her because I was overthinking it I thought, but then I reasoned that I gave up too easily. Her saying that I'm voting her not because I'm sheeping skitter but because of my own reasons is only partially true, and she seems to keep saying otherwise, that it's all because of the tmi argument that she laid on me Day 1. Then she says I'm lying about something else and uses what she said about Something Smart to back it, something about "You're more measured, and as scum your posts are self-focused" (paraphrasing) and I pointed out that his posts are self-focused this game so what is different this game. She referred me back to the "you're more measured" part. Well, I read what she originally wrote as being connected instead of two disparate thoughts (the you're more measured modifying the the second part of the sentence), and she apparently didn't intend it that way. I explained that in a later post, and she didn't include my explanation in her accusation. Just taking things out of context like that is scummy imo.
It's like when I jumped in on Day 1 and accused Pooky of scumming when he posted the read list of you callers. It was dumb of me to do that, because I hadn't read the 2 or 3 pages prior to that and didn't have the context for why he was doing it. It was pointed out to me that Rousseau had made that request of him, so I backtracked and said whoa you're right. I should have been more aware before throwing stones.
In Kyouko's case, it's obvious she's aware of everything, but she's cherry picking quotes and not giving them their proper due. You take something out of context and anything can sound scummy. "You didn't tie your shoes today." Kind of sounds like you were too lazy to tie your shoes, when actually the person knows you sprained your thumb last night and tying your shoes would be a pain in the ass, so it wasn't a matter of being lazy.
So in sum I've seen a lot of that type of thing from her, or at least I have the sense that I've seen a lot of that kind of thing from her this game. It's scummy behavior, and I'm sticking with my read.
Speaking of snipping a quote and missing context:
In post 2287, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:You feel less measured here, and I feel like as scum you like to bring attention to your playstyle. It could be you bring attention to your town and scum playstyles matching
as either alignment since I haven't played with town!S_S.
I've already explained to you that the second half of that reasoning (as scum you like to bring attention to your town and scum playstyles matching) could be NAI for S_S because I have not played with him as town.
I've explained what this post meant. It is clear from the original post that I was not using that as a reason to TR S_S. That is why I dont care that you are saying he is doing the same thing in this game
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:35 am
by DrippingGoofball
VOTE: s_s
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:39 am
by Cephrir
Well I have literally nothing to do right now so I guess I'll attempt a phone catchup
ydrasse was clearly not serious, and i'm alarmed that the thing you've found in the thread so far that you want to comment on is that
Ceph what post did you think Tetrina was reacting to here?
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:46 am
by Cephrir
In post 2495, skitter30 wrote:i kinda think that irregardless of his alignment ss is gonna be the flip today and that we're gonna be slow/stalled-ish until that happens
I feel like skitter is scumposting a fair bit on this page, but this is the prime thing I really didnt like at all
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:47 am
by Cephrir
"Just give up town, this is happening" well before it started looking inevitable fmpov. If I'm right I would look for scum among the votes that have since made it inevitable looking
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:48 am
by Cephrir
In post 2500, skitter30 wrote:i don't know
but like he's gotta know he's being ~underwhelming~ right? i don't know if he just phones it in as scum or if he tries to do something about it
Why do you keep feeling the need to use ~air tildes~ it makes me feel like you dont really believe it