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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:28 pm
by PenguinPower
Boop

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:29 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 2623, House wrote:Bullshit. ducky wasn't trying to force a player to out their alt under a flimsy pretense.
I'm not trying to force anything... Thor is welcome to not out his alt and get pushed by me. Ducky wasn't even giving him a choice.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:31 pm
by PenguinPower
Using an alt status to force in game actions via an ultimatum feel gross to me but isn’t currently against the rules.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:32 pm
by House
In post 2626, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2623, House wrote:Bullshit. ducky wasn't trying to force a player to out their alt under a flimsy pretense.
I'm not trying to force anything... Thor is welcome to not out his alt and get pushed by me. Ducky wasn't even giving him a choice.
Scum doesn't deserve one, tbh.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:32 pm
by Something_Smart
Well, that's assuming that he's actually as bad at mechanics as he's acting. If he isn't, then he doesn't have that option, you are right.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:33 pm
by House
In post 2629, Something_Smart wrote:Well, that's assuming that he's actually as bad at mechanics as he's acting. If he isn't, then he doesn't have that option, you are right.
I don't care about how bad he is or isn't at mechanics.

How else do you want to defend your behavior?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:34 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2617, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 2611, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2598, Something_Smart wrote:Titus got neighborizer when Enchant died, I mean.
UB typically works on roles of the same alignment
Idk about the functionality in this setup though
It’s in the OP that it’s the first PR. Not distinctive as to alignment.
Fair enough

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:36 pm
by Something_Smart
I'll put it this way, if it makes it clearer: I've seen lots of scum players use incredibly shady tactics, including (but not limited to) playing on an alt in a way that they would never get away with playing on their main, to the point where I can believe that some people (especially old ones) might try this as scum.

Whereas, I don't think I've met a single person who displayed both the amount of interest in mechanics and the amount of ineptitude with mechanics that Thor has. I've seen some people be bad at mechanics; but that's because they don't care, and they would never go to the lengths he did to make these theories.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:36 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 2630, House wrote:How else do you want to defend your behavior?
What about my behavior needs defending?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:37 pm
by PenguinPower
Miss Scum is ~9 hours from prod 3. Can we just elim and move on?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:37 pm
by House
In post 2633, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2630, House wrote:How else do you want to defend your behavior?
What about my behavior needs defending?
Coercion.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:38 pm
by House
In post 2632, Something_Smart wrote:I'll put it this way, if it makes it clearer: I've seen lots of scum players use incredibly shady tactics, including (but not limited to) playing on an alt in a way that they would never get away with playing on their main, to the point where I can believe that some people (especially old ones) might try this as scum.

Whereas, I don't think I've met a single person who displayed both the amount of interest in mechanics and the amount of ineptitude with mechanics that Thor has. I've seen some people be bad at mechanics; but that's because they don't care, and they would never go to the lengths he did to make these theories.
And that's a fine reason to base a vote.

Carrot & stick is not.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:39 pm
by House
In post 2634, PenguinPower wrote:Miss Scum is ~9 hours from prod 3. Can we just elim and move on?
I'm good with either Thor or MM, today.

I think they're both scum.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:41 pm
by Something_Smart
I'm not trying to coerce him into outing his main. I'm trying to sort him, and if he's town, then him revealing his main will help that. It's not my fault that that's the case.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:43 pm
by PenguinPower
The continued pressure to do so when it’s obvious he doesn’t want to is gross.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:44 pm
by House
In post 2586, Something_Smart wrote:Okay, if you insist.

VOTE: PenguinPower
Oh look, he didn't even need to bow to your veiled bribe. :roll:

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:44 pm
by Something_Smart
I mean... I'm playing to win. It will help my wincon. It's not against any rules. I'm sorry you don't like it.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:45 pm
by Something_Smart
In fact, the argument could be made that everyone protecting him is gamethrowing, because they're playing to an out-of-game benefit (letting Thor keep his alt) over their wincon.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:45 pm
by PenguinPower
Not a discussion for this game. Sure.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:47 pm
by Something_Smart
That's fair. But do you understand my point of view?

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:47 pm
by PenguinPower
Seems to me that you are bringing in account status as an in game reason. Again. Probably not a discussion for this game.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:48 pm
by House
Nope.

Already stated why.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:49 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 2645, PenguinPower wrote:Seems to me that you are bringing in account status as an in game reason. Again. Probably not a discussion for this game.
I mean, as long as meta is an in-game reason, so is this. I'm not asking if you think this is okay-- you've made that clear. I'm just asking if you can understand my point of view.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:50 pm
by PenguinPower
I can.

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:50 pm
by Datisi
In post 2624, Something_Smart wrote:
@mod: can UB inherit a role of the opposite alignment?
yes.