In post 2470, Ausuka wrote:I will say I think Freedom's behaviour is fairly clear cut the scummiest of anyone and the role claim is also probably the worst. Shoshin is the only thing that makes me doubt that push.
Why is my claim bad?
I missed this - I think
1) Town needs significant power and also needs plenty of VTs. Both of our roles are effectively useless and therefore fairly unlikely to coexist, although I wouldn't rule it out because loltrollgame and I don't fully understand what balances a normal game.
2) It's somewhat odd you're the only neighbour who's vanilla. I could see you possibly being some form of scummy mafia PR who didn't want to either trueclaim or make up a claim so just claimed vanilla neighbour.
I agree with 1) and the first sentence of 2) but I disagree on the second one. If I was an actual PR, why would I fakeclaim after receiving your Mailman message?
You literally gave me a headsup on what claims I could make and you wouldn't find it bad.
Why ignore you?
I don't think I did?? I said you were probably a PR but that didn't mean you would know what exactly to claim
But I would know that claiming a PR would impress you more than claiming Vanilla.
I think this is has some legitimacy but claiming PR also carries risks - you're more likely to get caught in a lie, and you're more likely to have to explain why you weren't nightkilled, for example
Ah. True.
I would likely get caught lying.
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 2:50 am
by Alexcellent
I don't really have a lot to add here. About 12 hours to go until deadline. And it's been almost 12 hours since Scamper asked for a minute soooo I'm okay with anyone hammering at this point.
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 2:51 am
by Ausuka
imagine if datisi is scum and intentionally lets the deadline expire
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 2:58 am
by Datisi
yeah, i totally do that when we're at evens and that doesn't even grant me an extra elim, you got me
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 2:59 am
by Alexcellent
Lul
I was thinking though if Freedom is scum and flips red, it probs solidifies Dats as town. I don't think Shoshin/Datisi's D1 interaction happens if they're both scum together
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 2:59 am
by Ausuka
In post 2628, Datisi wrote:yeah, i totally do that when we're at evens and that doesn't even grant me an extra elim, you got me
since when does shin tsukimi have well thought out plans
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:00 am
by Datisi
if you wanna fight we gon fight
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:00 am
by Datisi
also i will be home in 7 hours so at the absolute worst i am hammering then so like lole
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:00 am
by Ausuka
oh ok it's gonna be like that?
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:01 am
by Ausuka
VOTE: datisi I will fight you
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:06 am
by Alexcellent
Ausuka low key trying to save her scum partner Freedom /s
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:12 am
by Ausuka
No obviously I'm just trying to help my scumbuddy marci get her miselim
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:19 am
by scamper
bleh i'm sorry, i was too tired last night
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:29 am
by scamper
i'm a little concerned because gamestate-wise it seems to be assumed that this is an easy game but the people in the poe aren't really playing like it's an easy game, none of them seem to care much
if freedom flips scum we're all good i guess amnd we can probably figure this out, i would expect the partner in gamma or johnny probably
if freedom is town and i die overnight, please take a second look at alex, because i'm paranoid of the way he's been treating his vote today and i can feel crescent screaming in my ear from the dead PT
that's all i guess
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:30 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
vote count 3.13
with 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-07-25 03:00:00).
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:32 am
by Ausuka
i mean it's not so much assumed that it's an easy game it's more like
what can we do? if we're wrong we're wrong, it's not like we can just see where we're going wrong so easily if we are?
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:33 am
by scamper
idk, its just a gamestate thing - if the scum are in {freedom, johnny, marci, gamma} what are they doing, what is their path to victory here? none of them seem to care to to try to change things, except marci sort of...
idk, maybe i'm overthinking it and getting too paranoid
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:37 am
by Ausuka
their path to victory is to ml whoever in {freedom, johnny, datisi, marci, gamma?} isn't scum I suppose? idk, I'm not convinced by the idea that people can't be scum because they're not putting in the effort to change things? the poe is fairly wide and this isn't an amazing situation for town, i think there are scum players who would lurk in this situation.