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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:22 am
by Mac
mastin's case sucks. here's why:
reading street racers, he claimed in order to get his niehgbor lynched although I don't know why you are making this out like darthe claimed his role prematurely here when he's done the exact opposite. in fact he was probably appear prior to the deadline and claim something to force votes off of him. he also didn't call his slot an idiot/scummy here which was a) a mistake of mine and b) further proves you are not reading.
let's take a look at You Could Be Anyone mafia and Darthe's claim:
Darthe wrote:Character claims are essentially worthless so I will go ahead and state that I know we can have movie roles because I am James Bond.
hey look, this is kinda a direct contrast to how he's playing here. this was also post #102 and not fucking two thousand and something so what a shit point. character names weren't worth shit in that game (matt le blanc & churchill mafia proves this) so it's a moot point.
and you bring up 2 and a half men when again he doesn't role claim nor character claim early. so your case is a load of shit. you are making assumptions on darthe's scum/townplay on his behalf. he's basically cowering behind you right now.
can we lynch mastin?
or maybe darthe.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:24 am
by mastin2
Plenty of time if you'd switch your damn vote over to penguin_alien, Nero. You can be responsible for a town lynch (or, worse, a no-lynch), or you can HELP ME ACTUALLY LYNCH SCUM.
In post 2647, Nero Cain wrote:On a scale of 1-100 how strong is your PA scum read? Who is scum besides PA?
A good 80%. Maybe even 90%.
Sadly not nearly as strong as I would prefer my scumread to be, but comparatively, I'm 97% sure Darthe's town and 95% sure that ferret's town.
And as for other scum, I've said it already: Mac's in my radar, as is TheGoat. pidgey and Raven are also in my sights, too.
That said, of course, pidgey and TheGoat aren't scum with penguin_alien. pidgey and Raven are both weaker scumreads, too. I could be wrong on the scumteam compositions, but basically, I believe TheGoat (~50% scum; not very strong) and pidgey (~25% scum; incredibly weak) are scum with a third, and that penguin_alien and Mac are scum with a third. Raven could be scum on either team.
But again, I haven't had time to read the game. That'd make my strengths different, and maybe my reads altered.
However, my Darthe and ferret townreads WILL NOT WAVER, EVER, thus, a lynch on them is WORSE THAN A NO-LYNCH, but I would
rather lynch penguin_alien.
So stop being a stubborn ass and help me.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:27 am
by AngryPidgeon
VOTE: penguin_alien
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:27 am
by Mac
maybe not a mastin lynch then, he is pretty much town.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:28 am
by mastin2
EDBWOP:
In post 2651, mastin2 wrote:You can be responsible for a town lynch (or, worse, a no-lynch), or you can HELP ME ACTUALLY LYNCH SCUM.
"worse" from the perspective of Nero.
For me, "worse" is the town-lynch of Darthe.
And damn-right he's hiding behind me. Doesn't make him scum. As town, you're going to capitalize on a player defending you just as much as when scum.
Again. Darthe will not flip scum. I am positive of this. The names on his lynch are horribad.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:30 am
by Mac
surely you would, as town, defend with the player rather than hide? that makes no sense from a town pov.
vote penguin
I'm willing to trust you on this.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:31 am
by AngryPidgeon
Lets see, I win when all threats to the town are eliminated and PA is a threat.
I think Im doing it right.
Preview Window Addition to my HttpPost: Mac you aren't scum with mastin are you? Cause you guys are being spazzes but you kinda look town.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:32 am
by AngryPidgeon
Ya, I think mastin is town. Hes too much like me - spazzy when town. And a little paranoid. And desperate.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:33 am
by mastin2
In post 2644, Nexus wrote:Darthe (8)- xMALCOLMx, Desperado, Ravenpaw, MonkeyMan576, ferretlover, Nero Cain, Mutleyddmc, Mac
Seriously. Desperado's a dead-null-read. It'd be pathetically easy for said read to turn into a scumread, 'specially after I read the thread and get a stronger stance.
Nacho might have immediately set off my town-read, but I'm not afraid to call his hydra scum if they go through with this idiocy.
Ravenpaw's a scumread of mine.
Monkeyman's not the strongest player. (No offense meant, man.)
Ferret's on him mainly to avoid a no-lynch, as is Nero.
Mutley seemed to join for a similar reason.
I guess this wagon could
technically
be worse, but seriously, you can't think this is a wagon on scum.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:34 am
by AngryPidgeon
In post 9, Ravenpaw wrote:That's a cute gimmick AA.
And gawd, we have 6 hydras?!
Vote: MalcolmX
@Nero I like your hydra plan, you can go in my town pile for that.
This is probably scum
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:35 am
by Nero Cain
In post 2650, Mac wrote:and you bring up 2 and a half men when again he doesn't role claim nor character claim early
actually he did claim VT on day 1 which is why I so strongly thought Yates was playing to his "I'm going to pretend I'm playing derpy" scum meta but that's not really an argument for here.
Darthe doesn't seem to shy away from claims so why now?
I rather wait till his full claim.
Maybe PA is scum (I don't have a town read on it) but I don't think Darthe is town either.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:38 am
by Rubicon
Vote Darthe
(back to L-1)
Mastin's probtown but I don't really see why I should sheep him on this.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:38 am
by mastin2
In post 2659, AngryPidgeon wrote: In post 9, Ravenpaw wrote:That's a cute gimmick AA.
And gawd, we have 6 hydras?!
Vote: MalcolmX
@Nero I like your hydra plan, you can go in my town pile for that.
This is probably scum
My thoughts exactly.
But not today. Keep focused; penguin's our lynch.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:38 am
by Mac
I don't like mastin's preaching that his reads are right despite not reading but I know that's mastin. I know at least one of his reads are completely wrong. his read on me has no spine. but still the animosity with which he is defending darthe seems like town that doesn't want a townread lynched rather than scum saving a buddy.
oh and AP, have you stopped beating your wife?
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:40 am
by AngryPidgeon
Ferret, Fuzzy, and probably AA are all town.
To stop would imply I ever started.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:41 am
by mastin2
In post 2661, Rubicon wrote:Vote Darthe
(back to L-1)
Mastin's probtown but I don't really see why I should sheep him on this.
Because:
-I'm town. You think I'm town.
-As town, I'm legitimately scumhunting.
-As town, I'm generally a fairly competent scumhunter.
-I have displayed incredible confidence in why Darthe is town.
-I have given multiple reasons why Darthe is town.
-You may not agree with all my reasons, but you have to recognize that I have a fair bit of experience and that I'm staking everything I can on him being town.
-Even if you think my logic is wrong, I have that immensely-strong gut townread on him, and that's not something you should ignore.
-The composition of the wagon is crap, and the reasons for wanting him lynched are worse than the reasons I've presented for keeping him alive.
-I even managed to semi-dismantle the case on him.
-And, goddammit, I'M FREAKING MASTIN TWO, SO YOU KNOW I WON'T MISLEAD YOU.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:42 am
by AngryPidgeon
In post 62, The Goat wrote:
It's my thing D1. Will give more input as the day continues.
I've had this argument repeatedly. In summary, if you do not like it, too bad.
Then why do you continue to do something that gets you in a pointless argument everytime.
Holy butt.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:43 am
by mastin2
You're gonna need to explain that fuzzy townread of yours, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeal well.
(Ferret, not so much.
)
Also, *insert comparison between AP calling his slot town and Darthe calling his slot town*.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:43 am
by AngryPidgeon
In post 2665, mastin2 wrote:-I'm town. You think I'm town.
-As town, I'm legitimately scumhunting.
AS mastin's scumbuddy this game, I would like to take this time to vouch for his alignment being town.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:44 am
by AngryPidgeon
In post 2667, mastin2 wrote:Also, *insert comparison between AP calling his slot town and Darthe calling his slot town*.
I was referring to Amethyst Actor actually.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:45 am
by Mac
mastin what is your Monkey read? what did you make of my reason for wagoning him? (for which, you found me scummy...?)
also AP is calling AA the hydra town.. right?
sometimes I forget they are even playing.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:45 am
by Mac
and by wagoning I mean starting a wagon, not jumping on.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:45 am
by mastin2
Oh. Be specific, AP.
Butyeah, Amethyst Actor kinda looks town to me.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:47 am
by mastin2
In post 2670, Mac wrote:mastin what is your Monkey read? what did you make of my reason for wagoning him? (for which, you found me scummy...?)
My read on Monkey is town. It's admittedly not as strong of a townread as I would prefer (again, not having read the game, difficult to say for certain), but I definitely think he's town, and did not like the wagon on him at all.
I don't really remember your reasoning for thinking Monkey was scum, but I remember it either being unimpressive or leaving an impression--of you being scum wanting a mislynch. (Would have to check back to see which.)
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:48 am
by pidgey
AP
MY
HOMIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Damn this game just got better but you are town right