But in this scenario *DDL doesn't know there is JK*. From DrD's point of view, it could be: roleblocker, JK, Commuter, or he could have hit a bulletproof or commuted target. His kill target could have been doc saved. His kill target could have been babysat. His kill target could have been a town hider. There's a lot of reasons for A50's nightkill to fail if he's scum, there's no reason to assume it's JK over anything else, unless he was just going with the flow of the town because I think maybe a few people had speculated about JK at that point. In which case that's a crazy f'n coincidence
I think from the A50/DDL both scum perspective, the scum team knows that BEF was a vig shot, and their shot was blocked (from this point of view). Thus a JK claim makes sense to explain that he was saved over a scum kill block.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:34 pm
by Mewtaph
Also, Town Roleblocker is rare, I haven't seen many in setups, so it makes sense to upscale to JK because it sounds better lol.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:35 pm
by Mewtaph
A town JK claim both explains the block and why he was in this scenario supposedly saved when he was blocked.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:43 pm
by DVa
Say we lynch PP today instead of you. In this scenario, who does Seph shoot?
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:45 pm
by Mewtaph
I would want to shoot Kokichi because things are adding up to Kokichi/A50 to me based on positioning throughout this game.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:47 pm
by Almost50
In post 2654, Mewtaph wrote:I would want to shoot Kokichi because things are adding up to Kokichi/A50 to me based on positioning throughout this game.
Can somebody honestly tell me they think this is Town?? he's suggesting the "Vig" should be on the one confirmed Townie??? Really??
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:48 pm
by Almost50
@Mew: And what if ONLY Koki flips overnight and he's Town? Who would you like to lynch next and who should Seph Vig?
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:54 pm
by Mewtaph
Kokichi isn't going to get lynched today though.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:56 pm
by Mewtaph
Like, I don't understand what the point of that question is; where I would lynch next and where I would want Seph to vig would be dependent on the flip itself. Just seems like a poor attempt to try to communicate with me while keeping the doors shut.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:57 pm
by Almost50
Did you just evade my question? DVa asked what if we lynch PP, and you suggested a Vig shot on Koki. I am asking what if both flip Tonw. Who do would you lynch next and who would you suggest the Vig on?
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:59 pm
by Mewtaph
I'm not willing to assume on town flips to indicate my future actions when they haven't even happened yet.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:59 pm
by Almost50
VOTE: PP
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:00 pm
by DVa
I mean if mew is scum he is significantly above average at rationalizing his thought process. It is actually plausible he has been heavily tunneled. But I don't get why he's thinking a50 is scum given drds claim. I feel like his reads still dont make sense but maybe... idk gonna have to let some other people get in here I guess
I still kinda want to lynch him cause neegan was scummy but I feel like its plausible every tpr claim right now is real. But I do struggle with tpr claims tbh
I feel like usually I would be more confident he was scum if he was scum
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:01 pm
by DVa
Maybe drd spoiled me into thinking fakeclaims would collapse with mi or scrutiny. But the total lack of non shitty crumbs and the lack of a crumb on rbing a50 seriousmy bothers me still so idk
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:03 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2622, Mewtaph wrote:If I'm an ungated PR in the setup? For sure I'm not going to waste my claim on the tail end of the day just to be a free NK the next night.
My actions were transparent and obvious for me to make as a town JK whether you like it or not.
Yeah I’m still not getting how any of how Mew has been playing this comes from a scum directive.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:04 pm
by Mewtaph
All I can say is that transparency probably increases win % by a lot here. So that's what I'm trying to strive for.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:06 pm
by OkaPoka
ill read all them fancy things later but im basically looking to see if mew's mindset in not being openly anti ddl like asap makes sense soooo yeah if you want to do that for me <3
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:41 pm
by Kokichi Oma
Can we lynch Mew yet
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:45 pm
by DVa
why are you certain mew is scum again koki?
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:45 pm
by Kokichi Oma
cause i scumread him
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:31 pm
by skitter30
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:10 am
by Sephiroth
A50 is pretty transparently flailing scum here.
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:11 am
by Sephiroth
I'm leaning towards shooting him tonight.
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:11 am
by Sephiroth
I guess Kokichi is the better option though
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:13 am
by OkaPoka
in no scenario should kokichi be shot before a50 is flipped?