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I seen hydras from other sites. I figured people use them about the same as anyone. Its a secondary account. Why would you log onto it for any other purposes then to be playing your game its in. Which Hydra was specifically not doing by posting. Which told me he was online for other purposes then playing the game. And since the hydra was in 0 other games. I thought, yeah that's scum.In post 2649, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In your set of N=1, that is, you? Since....I mean, why would you have intimate knowledge of how anyone else navigates the website to read hydra games?In post 2648, Liger_Zero wrote:Never seen anyone do that.
Hydra was scum for other reasons. This just pushed me over the line from "leaning scum" to "definitely scum"- Liger_Zero
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I mean in Starcraft 2 my mod-provided fakeclaim directly overlapped with a real town role... I think the other issue was that Volxen needed to adjust his roleclaim to be n2 or n3+In post 2642, Cerberus v666 wrote:Like seriously, it's too easy/dumb for people to get caught because they have purely unsafe claims(like in this case, a mod provided claim that directly overlapped with an existing town role...one that was likely to become confirmed as town via mechanically catching scum).
I will say that town asked for significantly more help with fakeclaims this game than scum did 0.ovote conspiracy- Liger_Zero
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I get that point...but for some reason you're differentiating between "playing the game" and "reading the game".In post 2651, Liger_Zero wrote:
I seen hydras from other sites. I figured people use them about the same as anyone. Its a secondary account. Why would you log onto it for any other purposes then to be playing your game its in. Which Hydra was specifically not doing by posting. Which told me he was online for other purposes then playing the game. And since the hydra was in 0 other games. I thought, yeah that's scum.In post 2649, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In your set of N=1, that is, you? Since....I mean, why would you have intimate knowledge of how anyone else navigates the website to read hydra games?In post 2648, Liger_Zero wrote:Never seen anyone do that.
Hydra was scum for other reasons. This just pushed me over the line from "leaning scum" to "definitely scum"
The night login thing was silly, and I don't even care about, because they could just as easily have been reading the game to catch up as posting in a scum PT...so that whole tell is just really dumb, and easily defended against.
The idea that someone can only ever log into their hydra account to post in a game, and not even log in to just read, though? That's just wrong. Like, so wrong.
pedit: Not upset, you're just objectively wrong about the assertion you're making, and I generally don't let people just...be wrong about things.
Reason why I brought up the whole moongrass kill/not kill reasoning thing.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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eh I'd say people also sometimes log on to their hydra because they think *they might post* but sometimes they log on to the wrong accountIn post 2646, Liger_Zero wrote:Not a hydra. You log onto your hydra to post. Not read games.
I feel like there's players in this game that pretty regularly log onto their hydras to post to the wrong game and only catch themselves before they do so some of the timevote conspiracy- Liger_Zero
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I lied about this btw to get a reaction from Volxen and never got one. Should have pressed this harder to, but it was pretty much ignored lol.In post 2339, Liger_Zero wrote:
ohhh god this is funny....In post 2275, Volxen MJL Combo Pack wrote:My role is protoss observer
I just realized that the fake claim I asked for had the same flavor of Observer.- Liger_Zero
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Sure, but Hydra defense of my point was not townie eitherIn post 2656, Krazy wrote:
eh I'd say people also sometimes log on to their hydra because they think *they might post* but sometimes they log on to the wrong accountIn post 2646, Liger_Zero wrote:Not a hydra. You log onto your hydra to post. Not read games.
I feel like there's players in this game that pretty regularly log onto their hydras to post to the wrong game and only catch themselves before they do so some of the time-
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I think observer I provided as a sample flavor fakeclaim to literally everyone who asked for an investigative role
Like the sample fakeclaim for Volxen was meant to give a sense of how a fakeclaim post would be structured, but with claimed masons and a flipped cop JOAT I definitely would have second guessed making an investigative fakeclaimvote conspiracy- Liger_Zero
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And hydra could have said that. Their defense was in between of trying to blame their other head to denying it happened. Could have said "I was posting in my hydra PT".In post 2655, Cerberus v666 wrote:
I get that point...but for some reason you're differentiating between "playing the game" and "reading the game".In post 2651, Liger_Zero wrote:
I seen hydras from other sites. I figured people use them about the same as anyone. Its a secondary account. Why would you log onto it for any other purposes then to be playing your game its in. Which Hydra was specifically not doing by posting. Which told me he was online for other purposes then playing the game. And since the hydra was in 0 other games. I thought, yeah that's scum.In post 2649, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In your set of N=1, that is, you? Since....I mean, why would you have intimate knowledge of how anyone else navigates the website to read hydra games?In post 2648, Liger_Zero wrote:Never seen anyone do that.
Hydra was scum for other reasons. This just pushed me over the line from "leaning scum" to "definitely scum"
The night login thing was silly, and I don't even care about, because they could just as easily have been reading the game to catch up as posting in a scum PT...so that whole tell is just really dumb, and easily defended against.
The idea that someone can only ever log into their hydra account to post in a game, and not even log in to just read, though? That's just wrong. Like, so wrong.
pedit: Not upset, you're just objectively wrong about the assertion you're making, and I generally don't let people just...be wrong about things.
Reason why I brought up the whole moongrass kill/not kill reasoning thing.- Liger_Zero
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And I took two different screenshots of hydra being online and both of them looked shady to me. One during a time when everyone pressured Hydra but hydra was a no show. The other during the night. I asked Krazy if it was okay if I pushed this or posted it, and he said it wasn't against rules but it was flirting the line. So I didn't post it. I don't think it would have mattered much if I did because again, not many people were convinced of my original reasoning.- Shiro
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I mean I do it as well when I am in a hydraIn post 2648, Liger_Zero wrote:Never seen anyone do that.
Also apologies are in order. I should have dropped it and moved on. My bad.To me:
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Are you certain you weren't a lyncher?In post 2662, Shiro wrote:Also apologies are in order. I should have dropped it and moved on. My bad.- Shiro
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Good game everyone! Yes, Icon turned out to be town's hero.
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Yeah, you do.. and I'm sorry I mislynched you.In post 2607, popsofctown wrote:I win! This was such a fun game!
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A townie defense didn't exist, liger, because your point didn't exist.In post 2658, Liger_Zero wrote:
Sure, but Hydra defense of my point was not townie eitherIn post 2656, Krazy wrote:
eh I'd say people also sometimes log on to their hydra because they think *they might post* but sometimes they log on to the wrong accountIn post 2646, Liger_Zero wrote:Not a hydra. You log onto your hydra to post. Not read games.
I feel like there's players in this game that pretty regularly log onto their hydras to post to the wrong game and only catch themselves before they do so some of the time
Like, if a town slot had absolutely no idea why they showed up as logging in during the night(which hydra didn't??) they would have said the same thing.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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As in, they had no recollection of loggin in during the night. Read the scum discord when it is opened up, but yeah. They claimed ignorance to us too.In post 2670, Liger_Zero wrote:Didn't know why they showed as logged in? What pipe are you smoking?
So yeah, that was a legit, actual, real defense, unless they were lying to their teammates.
So.
A townie defense of the circumstances in question did not exist.
No, I'm not claiming tha thydra was in any way townie, because they weren't.
I do think, however, that I might have to not play games with you because having to change the settings on your MS profile in order to not have to deal with baseless accusations...is really dumb. Dunno, but yeah. Kinda a stupid thing to have to concern yourself with.GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Liger inspite of your D1 you really turned your slot around. Without you I don't see the win as likely so I'd like to say well done to you for your play and humility.
Ico well done pushing your reads with conviction and being able to untunnel me.
Overall well done town, that was a good game even if I missed every satisfying quicklynch on scum. - Moongrass
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