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In post 2643, Creature wrote:

In post 2636, Menalque wrote:Hey creature, enter, can u help us to lynch scum pls?

Can't, I have something in 30 mins

In post 2644, KidAmn wrote:

Vote: Rautherdir

Soul read.

In post 2236, Bingle wrote:

Spoiler: 3 post Scumread on Rauth

In post 276, Rautherdir wrote:Okay then...
The governor shot has an advantage that Bingle didn't bring up earlier.
It gives reads. The whole process of voting for the governor shot, and then later how the person with the shot uses it, generates reads. And I believe that offsets the mechanical disadvantages of the shot.

Having said that, at this stage in the game there's only one role that could effectively use governor in this situation that can get away with claiming right now. And that would still be heavily ill-advised due to the presence of a cult. So if we do give someone the governor shot, we probably won't be doing it for mechanical reasons. And since we haven't had enough time to form good reads yet, the next strategy we could use to give the shot is to give it to someone who can be read somewhat easily to see how and if they use it in the first few days.

So I'm going to VOTE: Creature (I could be convinced into voting for DEB as well.)

In post 288, Rautherdir wrote:I mean, DEB seemed pretty easy to read in my last game. (Then again, he got confed day 2 so... my perception might be inaccurate)
And it has been a while since I played with Creature, so if they're no longer an easy read I guess I'll just UNVOTE: and see what other people think of my strat.

In post 360, Rautherdir wrote:

In post 343, zoraster wrote:

In post 339, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 333, zoraster wrote:Everyone who posted earlier than me is slightly suspect.

Any logic to this?

I got my PM, said "oh hey, this will be fun when it starts" and then left it to chkflip to tell me when it started because I had nothing to do, no reason to engage with the game.

On the other hand, someone who gets a scum PM has a scum PT and is engaged with the game and waiting for it to start and thus noticed when the nonsense begins. Obviously plenty of people will see it in the Large Theme list and what not, but all equal, anyone who posted before chkflip deigned to tell us the game started gets a mild mark against them.

Or, you know, had the sign-up thread bookmarked and noticed the title for the sign-up thread had changed to say the game was now up. That's also possible.

And I disagree that the cult recruiting the governor shot is an issue, I guess it should be clear that that slot probably won't survive very long. (And since it has a high probability of becoming cult then scum would probably shoot the slot at some point.)
To be clear whoever gets the governor shot is the day 5 lynch if they last that long and cult isn't already accounted for. (Exact day adjustable depending on the number of night kills we end up having at night and whether or not there's an early cult leader death. But yeah, as zoraster said, this is a 40 player game. We can afford a one-shot governor, especially if it allows us to create reads and start discussion before getting into day 1. Suggesting otherwise isn't necessarily alignment indicative considering that it's probably the mechanically correct choice, but I don't think it's the correct choice with all things considered.)

First of all, there's so much waffle in these posts I thought I'd walked into a Denny's. Second, he rambles on about explaining exactly why he's doing what he's doing, which makes me think he's very concerned about how people see him and not too concerned about how he sees other people. He's doing this for reads, apparently, but when I've repeatedly asked for people to explain how the existence of a governor gives reads he's been silent. (And yes, this conversation has given the opportunity to read people, but no more than a normal D1 would. And it's certainly caused a lot more thread apathy because of people sitting on their hands doing nothing waiting for the real game to start.)

As soon as he receives pushback on the idea, he drops it with a "I guess I can see what people think of my idea." Unvoting at L-20. Which shows a real commitment to using it as a mechanic to scumhunt.

Further, as soon as zor comes in with a similar sentiment, he jumps right back into the same thing, but the tone isn't "I believe this thing" but rather "Look, someone else believes this thing! I'm not SCUMMY!" And even still, while blatantly hiding behind zor's agreement, he feels the need to defend himself from zor's thought that people who joined the thread early were more likely to be scum.

tl;dr, quickhammer no governor so we can lynch this.

In post 2648, Rautherdir wrote:Well, I haven’t really read much since my last post, so... yeah. I have read the posts made since day started though
I suppose I should clarify that before I posted the discussion so far was ‘Let’s get rid of the no gov shot as quickly as possible’ and it would be easy for scum to slip under the radar. Bingle immediately stifled any discussion on that matter, and from what I have read is still espousing misinformation regarding, for example, the Cult Q&A; and is using it to make reads on players. This is not a good trait for someone who is also trying to control the town.
VOTE: Bingle

In post 2524, Amrun wrote: [...]

In post 2520, Formerfish wrote:

In post 2516, Amrun wrote:Firebringer I actually think is scum.

Have you made a case?

In my opinion, yes. You can ISO me. I think he slipped and spoke from a place of knowledge that BBmolla is town. Others didn’t see it the same way, and it’s certainly not bulletproof, but I have seen nothing more lynchworthy yet.

In post 2649, Menalque wrote:

In post 2642, AaronFrost wrote:I mean sure? I don't really see why Amrun is obv scum though but I'm not necessarily opposed to the wagon.

VOTE: Amrun

Lots of posturing and trying to look like she’s doing something without really doing much of anything

Quite a lot of empty posting in her ISO

In post 2660, Rautherdir wrote:Menal is... interesting. He took the unpopular and very attention-getting action of voting himself for governor and did it quite seriously. I see Menal as being less likely to be group-scum right now, but maybe 3p or cult leader.

In post 2663, Menalque wrote:EP, i can’t remember if you’re already voting for scum but if you’re not could u please do that by typing

Code: Select all

[vote]amrun[/vote]

Into a post and then submitting it ty

In post 2660, Rautherdir wrote:Menal is... interesting. He took the unpopular and very attention-getting action of voting himself for governor and did it quite seriously. I see Menal as being less likely to be group-scum right now, but maybe 3p or cult leader.

In post 2662, Menalque wrote:

In post 2660, Rautherdir wrote:Menal is... interesting. He took the unpopular and very attention-getting action of voting himself for governor and did it quite seriously. I see Menal as being less likely to be group-scum right now, but maybe 3p or cult leader.

Err excuse u I was the most popular vote before FF took away our democratic rights

In post 2614, Menalque wrote:Caught up, amrun is scum, ali is prob town on top of other people I listed

FL, PB also prob scum but would much rather lynch amrun first

In post 2667, EspressoPatronum wrote:

In post 2660, Rautherdir wrote:Menal is... interesting. He took the unpopular and very attention-getting action of voting himself for governor and did it quite seriously. I see Menal as being less likely to be group-scum right now, but maybe 3p or cult leader.

Cult leaders usually try to blend in and stay low key. Running for gov would attract too much attention for a CL.

In post 2649, Menalque wrote:

In post 2642, AaronFrost wrote:I mean sure? I don't really see why Amrun is obv scum though but I'm not necessarily opposed to the wagon.

VOTE: Amrun

Lots of posturing and trying to look like she’s doing something without really doing much of anything

Quite a lot of empty posting in her ISO

Fb push is v bad and reads as scum going after someone they think is a viable mislynch

Is the gist of it

Also, noice

In post 2634, Creature wrote:I haven't studied shit for today ^_^

In post 2669, Rautherdir wrote:

In post 2662, Menalque wrote:

In post 2660, Rautherdir wrote:Menal is... interesting. He took the unpopular and very attention-getting action of voting himself for governor and did it quite seriously. I see Menal as being less likely to be group-scum right now, but maybe 3p or cult leader.

Err excuse u I was the most popular vote before FF took away our democratic rights

Voting someone for governor wasn't a popular opinion at the time you did it.

p-edit:
So, was Amrun saying she was willing to kill me in that post, or willing to kill Bingle?